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Who is Cains father?
hummer:
christiandom (the serpent) is the [Great Deceiver]
Hummer
loretta:
I just found Ray's teaching on the Sin of Adam and Eve. Ray writes
--- Quote ---There is no knowledge of good without a knowledge of evil! That is WHY God put both good AND evil IN THE SAME TREE; IN THE SAME FRUIT.!!
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My question then is, Why did God forbide them from eating the fruit?
cheekie3:
Wisdom -
The Author you refer to in his Part 1, 2 and 3 states and believes in Lucifer who rebelled against God and was changed to Satan, and that Spirit Beings like Angels and the Devil have sexual organs - when the Scriptures state that they do not.
He makes his evaluations of his revelation based on these false Doctrines; and I have found no Scriptural evidence to support his beliefs; and he appears to be suggesting that the Devil is almost on par to the Almighty - whereas the Scriptures show the boundaries of Satan in the Book of Job.
George.
Kat:
--- Quote from: loretta on June 27, 2013, 01:53:51 AM ---I just found Ray's teaching on the Sin of Adam and Eve. Ray writes
--- Quote ---There is no knowledge of good without a knowledge of evil! That is WHY God put both good AND evil IN THE SAME TREE; IN THE SAME FRUIT.!!
--- End quote ---
My question then is, Why did God forbide them from eating the fruit?
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Hi loretta, there is much evil in this world and with a carnal human nature we do/must partake in it. But we need the "experience in evil" (Ecc 1:13) to learn and understand from first hand experience about these consequences. Yes He has designed us where we are too weak and can not resist sin.
Jer 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
We know that God is sovereign and responsible for all things, including our carnal human nature, which brings about dire consequences for us, because of our sin. God, knowing the end from the beginning, does warn us of these consequences for our sins. The Scripture show He has always warned people of the consequences of their sin.
Jer 35:15 I have also sent to you all My servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, "Turn now everyone from his evil way, amend your doings, and do not go after other gods to serve them; then you will dwell in the land which I have given you and your fathers.' But you have not inclined your ear, nor obeyed Me.
Indeed God provided the commandments and laws to show us sin... has a single person (besides Jesus Christ) ever obey them completely? Of course not, we can't, we are carnal, so we do sin.
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is this life we all must live, and just as God warned Adam and Eve of sin, He gave His commandments to warn us all.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: loretta on June 26, 2013, 11:29:19 PM ---
--- Quote ---I can't help but laugh at this. I also can't imagine where the idea came from.. but then again, this is christianity we are talking about.
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You mean to say that the activity in the Garden is literal? I thought that John from Kentucky was suggesting otherwise.(?) Am I missing something here?
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John and I see this differeny.
As corinthians states; "albeit that which is first was not spiritual but natu ral and afterwards that which is spiritual."
And
"All these things happened unto them for our esample."
So I believe that the old testament, unless explicitaley stated as in revalation through language such as "symbolized," was first a historical account of events and afterwords holding deeper spiritual meaning. As in many things biblical, if all you see is the literal than you're missing so much more.
Besides, ray expounded on the book of genesis and other old testament books and shows that the story of creation as described in genesis is very consisted with the scientific record such as; "the earth brough forth the shrubs" etc. ..
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