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Letting go of sunday school
Dave in Tenn:
The problem I have using the terms 'natural' and 'supernatural' is that it diminishes God in the mundane and "normal" occurrences of life, which all of us experience. I don't believe any more in a God Who steps in from time to time to do some astounding act. ALL is of God. Moses had an extraordinary life for 40 years, then he spent 40 years working for his father-in-law. THEN he had an extraordinary life again. Was God not God and directing his steps during those 40 years of sheep-herding? Does the world really just tick along between miracles? Or is God working all in all? Is He somewhere out in space peeking in or tinkering, is it simply that He is in control of things, or do we really live and move and have our being IN HIM?
Besides, no matter how 'normal' some lives are at the moment...no volcanoes, no earthquakes, no bombs falling on our own houses...SOMEBODY is going through it somewhere on this round earth. The rain falls on the just and the unjust, and it's light, dark, dawn or dusk somewhere on the earth all the time.
That's coming out of sunday school for me.
loretta:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on October 02, 2013, 07:47:01 PM ---Is He somewhere out in space peeking in or tinkering, is it simply that He is in control of things, or do we really live and move and have our being IN HIM?
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Boy, what I am learning coming out of sunday school! Very interesting thread. :)
How is it different though, we living, moving and having our being in HIM v/s He being in control of things?
Dave in Tenn:
Loretta, for me one is 'getting there' and the other is 'there'. I don't have the Bible memorized, but while I don't doubt for a moment that God is in control of all things, I don't think that statement is in Scripture. But that we live and move and have our being (ARE) in Him is scripture, and the grandest possible statement that can be made concerning all of His creation and the plan of God for it. He's not 'out there', we are IN THERE.
Kat:
Hi Dave,
You make a good point, so I'm looking to see if there is a Scripture that says God 'controls' all things.
Pro 16:9 A man's heart plans his way,
But the LORD directs his steps.
Dan 5:23 And you have lifted yourself up against the Lord of heaven... and the God who holds your breath in His hand and owns all your ways, you have not glorified. (NKJV)
Dan 5:23 Over the Lord, the Eloah of the heavens, you exalt yourself... yet the Eloah in Whose hand is your breath, and for Whom are all your paths, Him you do not honor." (CLV)
Psa 115:3 But our God is in heaven;
He does whatever He pleases. (NKJV)
Psa 115:3 Indeed our Elohim is in the heavens; All that He desires, He does." (CLV)
Job 23:13 "But He is unique, and who can make Him change?
And whatever His soul desires, that He does.
v. 14 For He performs what is appointed for me,
And many such things are with Him.
I did not find the word 'control,' but I think those verses indicate the same thing. But just wanted to see what was in the Scripture on this.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
microlink:
Hi all,
One of Ray's favorites
Isa_46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
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