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Just need to vent how about you?
Dave in Tenn:
What works? And "What works?"
Dave in Tenn:
We can agree that a person with no works has no faith, but if a person had no faith, would he have no works?
Rene:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on November 25, 2013, 03:46:16 PM ---We can agree that a person with no works has no faith, but if a person had no faith, would he have no works?
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I don't know Dave, but here is a marvelous reply that Jesus gave to His disciples regarding works:
John 6:28-29 - " They said, therefore, unto Him—What are we to do, that we may be working the works of God? Jesus answered, and said unto them—This, is the work of God: that ye believe on Him whom, He, hath sent forth."
(Rotherham)
I found this reply to be quite telling. 8)
René
rick:
All this talk of works as if we have something to do with it , I see the Bible says that a man’s works will be burned up but not the man himself.
What constitutes works anyways ? I’m serious, what qualifies a work so as to be called a work ?
When I read some of these replies I ask myself are these replies suppose to put one under the law?
Any work that I deem as a good work that is done by me will be burned up but any work which is done by Christ will not be burned up and I will receive a reward for that which Christ does in and through me.
I am only a vessel, you know the pot , I am being molded by God . Could a good work be considered just saying to someone ,have a nice day? Or could it just be listening to someone who needs to talk about something they deem important ?
I am under grace not law, I see all this emphasizes’ on works , sure James says I’ll show you my faith by my works but who’s works are they ? Are they James or Christ works through James ?
I think if God wants me to sit on the couch, can I do otherwise ? Or if God wants me to jump off the couch can I do otherwise ?
Is it not God who gives me grace ? Is it not God who gives me faith ? Is it not God who will give me works ?
I think to much emphasis on works is emphasis on law . Just my thoughts on works which I can not take credit for any work that is of Christ but that work I can take credit for is my work and my work shall be burned up from what I understand. :(
Peace and Love to all. :)
Kat:
--- Quote from: Rick on November 25, 2013, 07:42:16 PM ---All this talk of works as if we have something to do with it , I see the Bible says that a man’s works will be burned up but not the man himself.
What constitutes works anyways ? I’m serious, what qualifies a work so as to be called a work ?
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The works may be done through us, but we actually participate in that don't you think? Paul gives us a very straight forward answer to what works are of the flesh and the fruit of the Spirit.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
v. 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
v. 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
v. 22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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