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Suspicions about the very great evil in Churches
acomplishedartis:
I am resting my main topic and my main points on the fact that the ''The synagogue of Satan is located in the churches—in The Church!''
And I will say again that what my post is all about is trying to put together some deeper knowledge on the very great evil happening in the Church.
With that said, I would like to expand on my point regarding hypnotism in the Church and confirm my suspicions. The quote is just informational, the author claims to be looking at this phenomena from a strictly psychological point of view, and I think that people here will find it very interesting:
The 5 Stages of Hypnosis
A typical hypnotherapy session contains five stages:
1. Introduction
2. Induction
3. Deepening
4. Suggestion and;
5. Awakening.
It is the contention of this author that the same five stages can be found within most Christian church services. The hypnotic techniques employed during church sessions have served to further entrench Christian beliefs into the minds of Christian subjects and so demonstrates the mentally manipulative religious package offered by the Christian religion.
According to professional hypnotists, the subject's mind must contain four primary criteria in order for the hypnosis to work. The acronym is known in the profession as, B.I.C.E:
1. Belief
2. Imagination
3. Conviction and;
4. Expectation
These elements are generally found in abundance in the mind of the true believing, church going Christian. Generally, those who attend church believe that their pastor or preacher is speaking the word of god, which has very powerful psychological implications and satisfies the first criteria of the list above. Further, the church goer’s imagination is engaged at almost all times throughout the service, during the singing, the sermon, the prayer and it is probably the hardest working aspect of the four criteria set out above. Next, professional hypnotists say that the subject must have conviction and the stronger the better! There is almost nothing in this world that inspires conviction, like one’s religious beliefs. The attendee is convinced that the church service is permeated by the spirit of their god, which leads to the expectation, that they will “feel the spirit.” In truth, the elation one gets from “feeling the spirit” may be little more than the pleasure and catharsis of entering a trance.
In many services, not all, but many, music will be played while the collection plate is being passed around. During which time, the preacher, pastor or minister, will be saying something like “give to god”, “give to Jesus” repeatedly. Well he did suffer immensely and die for you! The least you could do is give him a few dollars, right! The truth is, as shocking a revelation as this might be to some Christians; Jesus does not get the money! With believers already in a highly suggestible state, the peer pressure and repeated suggestion, “give to god” places both conscious and subconscious pressure on the congregant to pay the church money.
There are many denominations of Christianity each with their own slightly unique order of service, however there are commonalities between most Christian services and these commonalities are designed to mentally manipulate the participant via trance induction, so that their subjective beliefs about god and the truth never come into question.
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Arion on January 27, 2014, 05:20:39 AM --- I was in that for awhile early in my walk with the 'positive confession' nonsense. It got to the point that if I was sick I could never even say so because you possess what you confess. So there I would be sicker than a dog and confessing that I was at the pinnacle of health. And then there are believers that are preoccupied with demonology and satan. Everything that happens to them is satan attacking them and they would never voice anything because satan would overhear them, ect.
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Arion, those are good examples of what I mean in respect to 'psychological coercion', ...and we haven't even start with the ''hell'' card for new comers.
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on January 27, 2014, 11:47:02 AM ---Can't help but agree with all your points. Though some are worse than others in some ways, when they are truly honest, a 'worship experience' IS thought out and performed to manipulate emotions...and if you don't 'feel' it, then you just aren't very godly, are you?
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Yes, I would go as far as comparing worship music played in church with a jingle for a commercial, or with a national anthem.
Dave, I see what you are saying, sometimes people tent to feel guilty the days that they don't 'feel' it.
loretta:
You're spot on there Moises. But I'm glad that you've decided to rest your case/topic. I know from personal experience that researching into this subject is like entering a bottomless pit - isn't that where satan will be someday?! You'd be better off delving into the deeper truths of God. :)
Your post about hypnotism in the church though is revelatory. Now I can understand why the traditional churches are full of mindless beings. I was one of them and I couldn't fathom why an intelligent person like myself was so conned into believing such nonsense. Actually there are far more intelligent people still being lulled into a hypnotic trance in the evangelical churches.
But now that the spell is broken, I see! But try explaining it to those still in the church and you will see a veiled look come into their eyes. Eerily spooky, but they are just not able to see. And this too is the work of satan.
2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
And it applies to all churches, however well intentioned the leaders or members. So if you have had your eyes opened by God, flee.
--- Quote from: Rhys on January 27, 2014, 03:15:49 AM ---
The pleasure is seen by them as some sort of reward for doing well.
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And they are constantly teaching us this blatant lie, telling us how we ought to live our lives, blah blah. Which bothers me alot as I do not know how to respond to them or correct their erroneous teaching.
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on January 27, 2014, 11:47:02 AM ---
What did Jesus say?
Luk 7:31-35 To whom, then, shall I be likening the men of this generation, and to whom are they like? Like are they to little boys and girls sitting in the market and shouting to one another and saying, 'We flute to you and you do not dance! We wail to you and you do not lament!'"
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tks Dave. I never did understand this scripture till now. :)
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Rick on January 27, 2014, 04:16:10 PM ---
It is my belief that what Mosies is talking about most likely would be and internal thing going on with the hierarchy and most likely not all churches either.
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Hi Rick,
I am only talking about Churches who are part of any Christian denomination/institution, and believe in free-will, hell, etc. and their treefold service structure is singing, the sermon and closing with prayer or song...
Loretta
thanks for your contribution. And yes, it applies to all Christendom, some might not be able to see it yet, but eventually it becomes evident.
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