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Repent! The End Is Near..
Rene:
As followers of Christ, we should always live our lives in anticipation of His return and the end of this age. It is the prudent thing to do, because we know not when He is coming. Keeping Christ in the forefront of our minds and heart should help us as we go about our daily lives. I believe being watchful means more than just watching world events. I have come to understand that it also means to watch how we conduct ourselves in this world.
Rev. 16:15 "Lo! I come as a thief! Happy, he that is watching, and keeping his garments, lest, naked, he be walking, and they see his shame."
René
Nano:
Rick,
--- Quote from: Rick on February 13, 2014, 11:03:20 PM ---but one can not compare Hiroshima...Nagasaki to the world trade center.
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I agree, we can not compare them. They were both acts of evil that are serving a purpose in God's plan for all. As Ray has quoted from the Bible many times over, "God is no respecter of persons".
--- Quote from: Rick on February 13, 2014, 11:03:20 PM ---Yes, both Hiroshima..Nagasaki were a civilian population but a population that produced weapons for the Japanese military and it was also world war 2
The people at the world trade center were not making 500 pound bombs or other instruments of destruction and no world war was going on September 11 2001.
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The United States is not less evil/innocent than Hiroshima/Nagasaki. God is no respecter of persons and both groups of people are EQUAL. The Japanese will be just as much a part of God's Kingdom as the Americans. The US is only above all other nations and better than everyone else in our own carnal minds. Perhaps another "tower" to be brought down. God has not chosen our nation to be above any other. That is just puffed up American pride. No wonder so many from other countries despise us.
The real problem I have with all this is the twisting of scripture to make it seem like the US is "chosen" somehow and that 9/11 fulfilled some sort of biblical prophecy and if we don't repent now God is going to physically bring us down and destroy us. That is straight up Mystery Babylon 101. I am so glad to be free from the chains of fear that the church put on me!! But this is EXACTLY what they do. "Repent now or be physically destroyed like Sodom & Gomorrah", "Repent now or burn in hell for all eternity", "Repent now because God already destroyed the earth once with water - next time comes fire", and so on and so on...The US can not repent until God MAKES us repent.
I have many friends in Babylon who firmly believe that if the US allows homosexuals to marry that will be the last straw for God and he will start physically destroying the earth like nothing we've ever seen before. That is totally absurd. I have to agree with watchman here...
--- Quote from: thewatchman on February 12, 2014, 04:55:59 PM ---Why would judgement on America bring down the world? Why not the great slaughter that happened at Hiroshima or Nagasaki or the genocide at Rwanda when far more were killed than 9/11?
The problem when people interpret prophecy is that they always try to relate it to their own experiences which are usually too small and isolated. Big in their minds but not in others. Why not the London or Dutch terrorist attacks? My old bosses son just drove past that 2 decker bus that blew up in London and saw it in his rear view mirror. Far more personal to him than 9/11.
God has a far greater tapestry to paint than just our isolated perspective. And as the 'world' in scripture really is the carnal nature of man, then surely it's ending would be different than some physical cataclysm that everyone fears. Foolishly looking for a natural fall, rather than a spiritual one.
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The end of this age does not hinge on what America does or does not do. God does not respect us more than any of the other inhabitants of the world. There is no need to fear a bunch of physical wrath from God just because our nation doesn't repent. I spent too much of my life TERRIFIED that Christ would return in my lifetime and I'd have to experience a bunch of supernatural, physical destruction. No more. Now I hope & pray for his return rather than fearfully looking for "signs".
Much love,
Nano
thewatchman:
Nicely put Nano. It is the nature of man to raise up the high places in our own minds. This idea of 9/11 being a punishment from God is one such thing. It comes from a very ugly place in our carnal natures where we secretly want others whom we feel superior to to be punished. We just got on the life raft and they didn't. No different than the heresy of rapture and most people won't want the rhema light of God's true revelation to light up that spot in our characters. True disciples will welcome it's cleansing light. It is not different to worshiping in Babylons halls. Just a different version of the same thing. But when they have a personal investment or experience they don't want to let it go. But until this high place is brought low then we will never be fully redeemed. We who have been set free from many forms of bondage should know better and recognise it for what it really is. Another deception of our own making. Another scale to be lifted from over our eyes. 8)
John from Kentucky:
All throughout the Scriptures, there are statements about God's judgments and punishments on nations, peoples, and individuals.
There are also statements where God says He hates, detests, and abhors nations and individuals and their conduct and actions.
Here is a link where Ray shows from the Scriptures that God hates sinners.
http://bible-truths.com/WhyGodLovesYou.htm
Joel:
It's been a while since I read what Ray had written concerning the 9/11 attack.
So I went back to refresh my mind on just what he had to say, and his use of the scriptures as a background.
My thoughts and belief is one of agreement and in a word, Amen.
Ray said prophecy is dual, and he thinks prophecies are also multilayered. I think that is true also.
He made another statement that I thought was good, "Peace and harmony comes out of judgments."
Repent! The end is very near. I vote yes.
Joel
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