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The great false church
Riddles:
I can't yet find the quote from L. Ray that I refer to. I will post it when I do.
Dave in Tenn:
Back to the OP:
Mar 4:14 The sower sows the word:
Mar 4:15 and these are they by the wayside where the word is sown, and when they hear, immediately Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them.
Mar 4:16 And these are they in like manner who are sown upon the rocky places, who when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy,
Mar 4:17 and they have no root in themselves, but are for a time: then, tribulation arising, or persecution on account of the word, immediately they are offended.
Mar 4:18 And others are they who are sown among the thorns: these are they who have heard the word,
Mar 4:19 and the cares of life, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things, entering in, choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Where are those people? Some of them quit going to church and just became your basic booger-heads. You know some, and so do I. Most of the rest are still there, however. And worse, many are in the pulpits.
He said it...so shall it be.
HoneyLamb56:
This question has probably been asked before (I'm still a babe) but I would like to see your comments. If one has stopped going to church (or has come out of the church), how does this person's spouse or children hear Christ being preached if they do not attend "the church"? Or one who never has attended church and does not listen to religious TV etc.? How does God draw them? or are they to be spiritually blinded until they physically die?
Diane
Kat:
Hi friendofJC,
Actually the church of Christendom is not God's church.
http://bible-truths.com/email15.htm --------------------
Jesus Christ said, "I will BUILD My church..." (Matt. 16:18). James understood that there was a church to be built among the Gentiles, "After this I will return and will BUILD again the tabernacle of David..." (Acts 15:15-16). Paul instructs us further in this building process of the church,
"According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another builds thereon. But let every man TAKE HEED HOW HE BUILDS thereupon" (I Cor. 3:10).
This most stern warning is given to us because Paul is not speaking of properly laying or building with bricks and mortar, but with the LIVES of precious people, "...YE ARE God's building" (Verse 9)!
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this TEMPLE, and in three days I will raise it up. [how much MONEY do you suppose that would take, Pastor?] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and will you rear it up in three days? But He spake of the TEMPLE OF HIS BODY" (John 2:19-21).
"For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a BUILDING of God, an house NOT MADE WITH HANDS [how much money you reckon a fine building like this would cost, Pastor?]..." (II Cor. 5:1).
"Know you not that YOU ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and that the Spirit of God dwells IN YOU?" (I Cor. 3:16).
That's because,
"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that He is Lord of heaven and earth, DWELLS NOT IN TEMPLES MADE WITH HANDS" (Acts 17:24).
No, God does not "dwell" in temples and buildings made with hands, but SATAN "DWELLS" in carnal churches made with hands (Rev. 2:13)!
The reason the church today is bankrupt is because they have FAR TOO MUCH MONEY and FAR TOO LITTLE SPIRIT!
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HoneyLamb, God can draw people to Him in many ways, there are all kinds of causes, most unseen and we are totally unaware of. Usually it is initially through a church that they hear the basic gospel and learn the Bible stories. I think there are some people that do not attend a church and read the Bible on their on or just with family. But a lot of people will not even be drawn to God in this age at all.
The church is a carnal gathering of people seeking religious socialization. Those in the church hardly hear the truth, they are blind leaders of the blind.
Mat 15:14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch."
I do not think it is necessary to make sure your family gets churched. If you have learned the truth about the church it's hard to understand that you would desire them to be a part of that. A person that has their eyes opened would be a far better teacher for their family than any church would be. But if a family member wants to go with other family members or friends I wouldn't stop them either.
Now of course this is my personal stance and others can have their own opinion.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
indianabob:
Dear friend Diane,
God has provided a better teacher for your spouse and children in the person of you, one who's mind has been opened.
One who has truly been called, even though a babe in Christ in their own mind, is better able to present the truth in a loving sincere manner than almost any seminary graduate with all their biases, myths and fairy tales.
You have the scripture and can prepare very simple bible lessons if the family is willing. Please be sure that they are willing, don't force.... Plus you have the spirit of Christ, the counselor, the Paraclete at your side to give you the thoughts that will matter.
Also please do not be concerned about having to "get them convicted" in a hurry or before it is too late. With a loving God it is never too late and even so God can open their mind instantly, when God is ready to do it and not before.
Please be patient with yourself and your family and friends and simply do your best with God's spirit in your heart to be a better living example. Your family will see the improvement and will learn to trust your counsel in due time.
I have four adult children who love their Mom and Me and show it regularly. They also love one another and yet they all are different in their core beliefs. None of them are church members.
Regards, Indiana Bob
--- Quote from: HoneyLamb56 on July 05, 2014, 07:05:27 AM ---This question has probably been asked before (I'm still a babe) but I would like to see your comments. If one has stopped going to church (or has come out of the church), how does this person's spouse or children hear Christ being preached if they do not attend "the church"? Or one who never has attended church and does not listen to religious TV etc.? How does God draw them? or are they to be spiritually blinded until they physically die?
Diane
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