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The great false church
Riddles:
Kat said
I do not think it is necessary to make sure your family gets churched. If you have learned the truth about the church it's hard to understand that you would desire them to be a part of that. A person that has their eyes opened would be a far better teacher for their family than any church would be. But if a family member wants to go with other family members or friends I wouldn't stop them either.
I completely agree.
Indianabob said
God has provided a better teacher for your spouse and children in the person of you, one who's mind has been opened.
One who has truly been called, even though a babe in Christ in their own mind, is better able to present the truth in a loving sincere manner than almost any seminary graduate with all their biases, myths and fairy tales.
So well said.
As for me, Diane - I had a bible with Jesus' words in red since I can remember, but I only got curious enough to read the rest of it when a friend who I really respect just out of nowhere one day said to me "I'm reading the bible to my [infant] daughter." She said no more about it. This was enough for met to get curious about the bible, realizing that I hadn't the faintest idea what it said. Even little children can feel it when someone is trying to "sell" an idea to them, Diane, and people naturally resist. But that is why the gospel is good news - accepting and knowing that God reconciles all people to Himself IS the good news which changes YOU so that you (and we) don't have to strive to change other people.
Much of the fervor to "win souls" I think, stems from an anxiety about eternal punishment which does not exist.
I'm not sure how you ought to do things, Diane, but I look back at my friend's casual mentioning of reading the bible as planting a seed in me. She didn't make a show of being at peace - she just was. She gave me nothing to reject or resist, so of course I thought reading the bible was my own idea!
indianabob:
Friend Riddles,
Very well put. Reminds me of some of my history.
Thanks, Indiana Bob
Ian 155:
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a ..
Rene:
--- Quote from: HoneyLamb56 on July 05, 2014, 07:05:27 AM ---
How does God draw them? or are they to be spiritually blinded until they physically die?
--- End quote ---
Hi Diane,
If it is God's plan that someone is going to be given "spiritual sight" in this age, He does it by changing their hearts. It is God Who will put the desire in their hearts to know the truth, and then they will seek Him, and He will open their eyes. If a family member is going to be given "spiritual sight", God may use you as an instrument in this process or He may use another source.
No need to worry whether your family goes to church or not. Besides, the vast majority of people who are "in the church" in this age, will remain spiritually blind. If God is choosing one of your family members to be spiritually enlightened, it will not fail, no matter what you do. 8)
René
lareli:
Question.. Do you guys listen to christian music? Klove?
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