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The Enigma: Jesus Christ our Master and our God
cheekie3:
Rene -
Did The Father "Birth" Jesus and something else?
If Our Heavenly Father "Birthed" something else - what was it?.
If Our Father "Birthed" "Wisdom" - and that it was required in order to formulate and complete His Great Plan of The Ages and to create His Family - it must include the "how" and the "what"?
Is Jesus not the "how" and the "what" of Our Father's "Wisdom"?
Is Jesus not both and extension of The Father and a separate created being?
George.
Rene:
--- Quote from: cheekie3 on July 25, 2014, 01:52:17 AM ---Rene -
Did The Father "Birth" Jesus and something else?
If Our Heavenly Father "Burthed" something else - what was it?.
If Our Father "Birthed" "Wisdom" - and that it was required in order to formulate and complete His Great Plan of The Ages and to create His Family - it must include the "how" and the "what"?
Is Jesus not the "how" and the "what" of Our Father's "Wisdom"?
Is Jesus not both and extension of The Father and a separate created being?
George.
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Hi George,
As I stated, my post was Ray's reply to my question regarding Jesus being the Wisdom spoken of in scripture. My reasoning and understanding was pretty much the same as yours. :-\
René
dave:
If I may suggest, 1Co 2:13 which things also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Holy Spirit, with spiritual things spiritual things comparing,
1Co 2:14 and the natural man doth not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for to him they are foolishness, and he is not able to know them , because spiritually they are discerned;
Kat:
wis·dom noun \ˈwiz-dəm\: knowledge that is gained by having many experiences in life : the natural ability to understand things that most other people cannot understand : knowledge of what is proper or reasonable : good sense or judgment.
Thinking about what Ray said... having the Father as a perpetual Being and it was a certain point it time when the Son was brought forth and the start this of creation. So it would seem that the Father had developed/birthed great wisdom in order to conceive such a wonderful and perfectly thought out plan for all this. That is what I can understand about what he was saying.
But since the Father gained this quality of wisdom, it would have naturally transferred into the Son as well. So I don't see the Son as being the wisdom of the Father, but more like the results of it and then also partaking of it. So just as the Father has it, so does the Son as an extension of the Father.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
dave:
Well said Kat.
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