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Eph.4:9
Ian 155:
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--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 03, 2014, 03:39:06 PM ---Yes, He did. It's also worth remembering that 'out of the heart' come good things as well. Whatever is in there is what will come out.
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Amen. As one gets older the searching is quite humbling.
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Not sure on this one Dave, Jeremiah 17v9 suggests differently perhaps worth a discussion
Abednego:
--- Quote from: Ian 155 on September 04, 2014, 02:54:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on September 03, 2014, 06:31:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 03, 2014, 03:39:06 PM ---Yes, He did. It's also worth remembering that 'out of the heart' come good things as well. Whatever is in there is what will come out.
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Amen. As one gets older the searching is quite humbling.
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Not sure on this one Dave, Jeremiah 17v9 suggests differently perhaps worth a discussion
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1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
For Paul to be able to say that means plenty of good is coming out of his heart. And we can all get to that point. But it will only happen when it is all of God and none of us.
Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease. Must happen to you first.
Ian 155:
--- Quote from: Abednego on September 04, 2014, 08:20:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ian 155 on September 04, 2014, 02:54:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on September 03, 2014, 06:31:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 03, 2014, 03:39:06 PM ---Yes, He did. It's also worth remembering that 'out of the heart' come good things as well. Whatever is in there is what will come out.
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Amen. As one gets older the searching is quite humbling.
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Not sure on this one Dave, Jeremiah 17v9 suggests differently perhaps worth a discussion
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1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
For Paul to be able to say that means plenty of good is coming out of his heart. And we can all get to that point. But it will only happen when it is all of God and none of us.
Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease. Must happen to you first.
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So you believe your heart is able to be/do good?
Dave in Tenn:
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
(Mat 5:8 )
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
(Mat 12:35-37)
For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
(Luk 6:43-45)
But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
(Luk 8:15)
Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
(1Ti 1:5-7)
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
(2Ti 2:21)
I thank my God, making mention of thee always in my prayers, Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all saints; That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.
(Phm 1:4-6)
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
(Tit 1:15-16)
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Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: (question) who can know it?
Jer 17:10 (answer) I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is incurable; (question) who can know it?
Jer 17:10 (answer) I, Jehovah, search the heart, I try the reins, even to give to each man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceeding weak - (question) who can know it?
Jer 17:10 (answer) I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
(2Co 5:10)
Ian 155:
These scriptures certainly challenge any idea that man is able to change his motive,or that no man is good ,only God.
I have found that on a day I am able to walk with good intentions,almost as soon as this realization is noticed I "mess up"(fall)revert .
I believe/want to believe the scripture "if a man cleanses himselffrom the latter he is able to be used as a vessel unto good works.
its the preparation phase that I/we are in...
Personally and this may be my problem/(excuse)... I have concluded that God must change me build me and I remain wicked until that /those wicked things are changed by God.not implying that i go on sinning randomly but believing He, God will not allow it to continue.
In My present state there is an appearance of Jesus in my life not yet fully developed/formed.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
This WILL GIVE has no time
I am ,rightly or wronly starting to understand that this requires work on our part, that is the "resisting" part, or doing the things which He said we should do...and my conclusion is that it is impossible -Who 's gonna rescue me ?
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