> General Discussions
Eph.4:9
Ian 155:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 02, 2014, 11:39:59 AM ---Thanks, Nathan.
Ian, be very careful with that line of thinking. There are those so enamored with the 'doctrine' of Jesus having a 'carnal mind' or a 'sin nature' that they denigrate Him and the work He did FOR US. Ray had no tolerance for that, and neither will we.
"Yet without sin..." is a TRUE STATEMENT that can be applied to everything He did or said in the Gospels, Acts, and The Revelation. Besides, sometimes the 'earth' is just the earth. The definition of "spiritual" is NOT the definition of "symbolic".
--- End quote ---
Dave, with respect...you twist my words to suit your own understanding
Dave in Tenn:
No I don't. I read your words "...there are various states of being earthly minded, Jesus descended to the lowest carnal (earthly) state..." and reply.
The 'doctrine' to which I am referring is 'out there'. My warning is sincere and applies to you (and every reader)--be very careful.
Ian 155:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 03, 2014, 03:29:57 AM ---No I don't. I read your words "...there are various states of being earthly minded, Jesus descended to the lowest carnal (earthly) state..." and reply.
The 'doctrine' to which I am referring is 'out there'. My warning is sincere and applies to you (and every reader)--be very careful.
--- End quote ---
I see your point ...it does come across as such - Rephrase, Descended to the core / heart of Humanity and dwelt among them, an experience of evil no doubt , NOT implying in anyway that Jesus partook
For out of the heart come evil thoughts--murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.( these being the various states of carnakity) he did dwell /descend/live among these minded humans - no ?
Apologies I should work on the way I word things.
Ian
Dave in Tenn:
Yes, He did. It's also worth remembering that 'out of the heart' come good things as well. Whatever is in there is what will come out.
dave:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on September 03, 2014, 03:39:06 PM ---Yes, He did. It's also worth remembering that 'out of the heart' come good things as well. Whatever is in there is what will come out.
--- End quote ---
Amen. As one gets older the searching is quite humbling.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version