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zander:
Hi IndianaBob
I don't doubt that a lot of the stuff here on earth needs to start again.
I never thought that "most of humanity" will be gone when Jesus comes, however. That is a revelation. Wow.
Ebola perhaps?
indianabob:
Hi again Zander,
I'm no predictor of future events and especially not on this forum. I'm just thinking of what seems logical.
There certainly could be many more diseases or earthquakes or war between nations that would reduce the world's population, but putting that aside please consider.
When the Lord Jesus returns to rule from Jerusalem, do you suppose that he will have to continuously, for decades, contend with America, Russia, China, India, Great Britain all retaining their nuclear bombs and intercontinental missiles?
I seriously doubt it!
There may be some semblance of independent nations remaining in the earth for a while, but why would God through Christ permit the threat of nuclear war to hang over the heads of the earth's populations?
Seems to me that those weapons of mass destruction must be dismantled or miraculously disposed of early in the administration of Peace that Lord Jesus will bring.
Also, think of all the international commerce for profit that is not really necessary for humans to have a productive and loving family life.
Consider all the factories that produce weapons of war and provide high paying jobs for the citizens of many advanced nations. Those technical jobs will all be gone or replaced with other tasks that build up rather than tear down and destroy.
Why will we continue to pollute the air we breath with jet airplane exhaust, automobile exhaust etc. etc?? Over 90 percent of air travel is a luxury and why drive for an hour each way to work when we will have more useful goals in our local communities in our daily lives under the administration of peace.
If we check on the results of our selfish and greedy way of living in this century it becomes apparent that changes are needed and Christ will bring them and teach us to appreciate God's way of living in full joy and love toward one another.
Just my view. Indiana Bob
lareli:
Hi Zander
The world won't end. It will be redeemed. After a great slaughter of humanity. Such a great slaughter that no flesh would survive if God hadn't cut those days short. But He WILL cut those days short for the elects sake. The bible says that no 'FLESH' would survive unless the days were cut short. FLESH. So we can't spiritualize this prophecy away..
Ray wrote the paper "in the day of great slaughter when the towers fall" to show his readers that he believes the twin towers falling on 9/11 were attested to in the book of Isaiah. And that the Christian democracies of America and Europe are the 'ISRAEL OF GOD'.
I'll quote Ray
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Back in 2002 I gave a short lecture on 9-11. I now wish to make public to our readers the prophetic implications of this colossal disaster, as I believe is attested to in the Book of Isaiah.
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And lest we get puffed up in the realization that the Christian democracies of America and Europe are indeed the "ISRAEL OF GOD" in prophecy, let us not forget that God’s Church is made up of the "MANY called, but FEW chosen" (Matt. 22:14 & Matt. 7:21-23).
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Ray goes on to say that the punishment from God begins with the Christian nations but it doesn't stop there. God will punish ALL nations after He's punished the Christian nations.
I'll quote Ray
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As we have seen in Jeremiah, God will punish ALL NATIONS, but the Christian Nations will be the first to fall. First God punishes His people, and then He punishes those He used as a club in His hand to punish His people. Few will take this warning seriously—what about YOU?
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If anyone thinks this paper is about anything else other than the end of the age and the beginning of the next age.. Then you have to ignore huge chunks of what Ray wrote. One only need read the 1st paragraph of the paper to see that he's talking about the world and not just America.
zander:
"When the Lord Jesus returns to rule from Jerusalem, do you suppose that he will have to continuously, for decades, contend with America, Russia, China, India, Great Britain all retaining their nuclear bombs and intercontinental missiles?
I seriously doubt it!"
Well Jesus is a miracle worker, I am sure he could render nukes quite useless just by thinking about them.
But alas as I read, most of humanity will be wiped off the earth then. Jeez that is some conclusion.
It says Jesus will come at the most unexpected of times. I expect him to come when there is big time tribulation, which is NOT unexpected. So maybe he will come when there is peace already...I don't know.
Ian 155:
There have been many towers that have fallen since this prophecy non more so than our own towers in our unregenerate minds.
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
notice twice in one verse"I will come on thee"
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