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Ian 155:
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I don't see the Scriptures that say humans have a two-edged sword in their mouths.
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there are
THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART
Rom 10 v8 and Duet 30v14
ryman:
Hey kat.....I already asked about the resurrection of the "wicked" in another topic....
You did mean that only the overcomers will rise with incorruptible immortal etc etc?
To all thanks for all the verses and taking my question further....
Kat:
Hi ryman,
I think you must be referring to the part I put in bold here.
http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm --------------------
Here is how GOD says He created Adam and Eve:
"For the creature was made subject to vanity [King James Margin: "futility"], not willingly, but by reason of Him [God] Who has subjected [Gk: ‘subjects’—aorist tense—subjecting is still going on] the same in hope" (Rom. 8:20).
In Dante’s inferno, "all hope is gone…," but in God’s realm He subjects the entire creation "…in HOPE,"
God willfully, wantingly, knowingly, purposely, and wisely, created mankind "subject to vanity," subject to failure, but beyond the failure, God also subjects the same in "hope." Once again, contrary to all orthodox doctrine, there is hope for all of God’s carnal-minded, God-hating people on planet Earth. God Himself says so, in the same breath: "because the creature itself [the same creation that God subjects to vanity, futility, failure, and carnal-minded hatred against God] also shall be [ah, did you catch that? ‘shall be’], delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God" (Rom. 8:21). Do you believe the Scriptures? Really—what about this one?
And so God, "made the creature subject to vanity"—failure, but later in mankind’s development, the creature "shall be"— [future tense]… shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption." Ah yes, God created them in a condition of "bondage" and "corruption," and therefore not "immortal" as is taught, but rather in "bondage of corruption." But thanks to God, in the resurrection of the dead, ‘…this corruption must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality’ (I Cor. 15:54).
Yes, of course, first comes the PHYSICAL (death), and then the SPIRITUAL (life). There it is—the hope of all humanity. Corruption and mortality (the physical first) must put on incorruption and immortality [the afterward spiritual).
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Yes Paul is speaking to the brethren in that passage in 1 Cor 15.
1Co 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Rinus:
Hi Arion
You said
' If I'm armed and someone attempts to murder me, my wife, kids, ect then I'll defend them'
Remember that we should love Christ above ALL(including your wife and kids). As a follower of Christ you can't say:' If I'm armed and someone attempts to murder me, my wife, kids, ect then I'll defend them'. You cannot kill for ANYONE if you are a follower of Christ.
Remember Matthew 10:37 'He who is fond of father or mother above Me is not worthy of Me.And he who is fond of son or daughter above Me is not worthy of Me.'(from the CLV)
2nd witness Luke 14:26 'If anyone is coming to Me and is not hating(Love less) his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, and still more his soul besides, he cannot be My disciple.(from CLV)
The command 'turn the other cheek' is an EXTREMELY difficult one especially when you are married. In fact all the commands of Christ are EXTREMELY difficult to follow when you are married because a married man's attention is divided.
Remember 1 Corinthians 7:28 'It isn't wrong to marry, even if you have never been married before. But those who marry will have a lot of trouble, and I want to protect you from that.'(from CEV)
Remember 1 Corinthians 7:28 'But if you decide to marry, that is not a sin. And it is not a sin for a girl who has never married to get married. But those who marry will have trouble in this life, and I want you to be free from this trouble.'(from ERV)
Remember 1 Corinthians 7:35 'What I am saying is for your own good--it isn't to limit your freedom. I want to help you to live right and to LOVE THE LORD ABOVE ALL ELSE.'(from CEV)
I pray that God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ will be good to you and give you peace.
Rinus
arion:
Hello Rinus;
If you could stand back and watch your wife be murdered, your children be raped and you have the means to protect them and yet do nothing then you can pat yourself on the back and believe that you did what God wanted you to do. You stated;
You cannot kill for ANYONE if you are a follower of Christ
God himself kills and yet is without sin. The commandment of course is that 'thou shalt not murder' and the commandment is true and good. I can very well forsee the day as a follower of Christ that I might allow someone to kill me without resistance.
My prayer of course is that I finish my life without God every putting me into a situation where I have to make such a decision for myself or others. We could come up with a lot of hypothetical's of what one would or would not do in certain situations. But if you had the means to intervene and yet stood back and allowed a child to be raped or an innocent to be murdered then you can live with your own conscience on the matter.
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