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Dennis Vogel:

Ricky:
If any of you celebrate Christmas, I hope u have a great pagan time.

Dave in Tenn:
I'll be working 6-2 that day, but I plan to spend the rest of it cowering under my sheets so I don't accidentally enjoy the company.

Rhys 🕊:
It's a beautiful story to me and what Gina shared. It shows what God brings us through and we all make mistakes a long the way but we learn that we are not alone through it.

I feel like banging my head against the wall some times, should I be doing this or doing that and not doing this and not doing that. I feel concerned sometimes I turn my back on God and open myself to the ways of this world which only results in more of the banging of the head going on.

I learn through it all not to condemn and judge others as I was there too but too love and care as I can even though I feel I come so short of that at times. I know God is doing a good work and in that I rejoice.

I feel I want to get closer to the truth but every step towards it seems to find another obstacle in the path. It seems to all make this life more difficult, yes there if freedom in doing right but it comes at a cost.

The previous posts mention Christmas and I find that a challenge too but I agree with what Ray said here:

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2759.msg20428.html#msg20428

Yes, Christimas and all of its accoutrements and paraphania (evergreen tree, orbs, eggs, mistletoe, presents, winter solstice, yule logs, fires, drinking, etc.) are also pagan. But then again virtually all who shun this day with great horror think nothing of having a traditional wedding with the same pagan acoutrements (vale, something old, something new; something borrowed, something blue, rings, rice, honeymoon, bells, wedding cake, etc.).  Then of course at least some of them have their boys in the Boy Scouts with all their pagan accoutrements (left-handed locking little finger hand shake, spirit of scouting, the insignia--fleur-de-lis, etc).  Did I mention that it was the pagans who whore shoes before the Christians.  The Scriptures tell us that we should "Be ye not righteous over much" (Ecc. 7:16). And Paul said: "To the pure all things are pure."  I just don't get all bent out of shape over these things. I personally do not get caught up in the "spirit" of any of these things, but neither do I condemn those who do. These are things that each of us must decide in their own way. However, for what it is worth: Dumping Christmas for Hannukah seems to me like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

There are so many pagan things around us and many we do we don't even realise at the time. I learn over time and find that as God's truth sinks in those things become less interesting. Like Ray said how he does not get caught up in the spirit of them and I feel more that way myself now but still associate with some things but more for the benefit of others as I see little in it for me. I find myself struggling with that one, sometimes I just walk away and have nothing to do with it, this can annoy some people and yet other times I get involved but look to share some truth about it to others while not getting too involved in it. Start getting too involved and I want to walk out of the room.

I find peace in be a light in those situations even though it seems a dim light and not sure if it's a light or not but I feel I still grow in His truth even though I seem so unsure about things at times.

I agree with the comment by Kat "These things should make us long for the return of Christ to set up His kingdom... and not as a far distance hope either"

That's what I long for then these things would be less of an issue.

Just thinking out aloud, maybe some would understand where I'm coming from but OK if you don't. I'm not so sure I do

Rhys

Gina:
I love that, Rhys.  You always nail it.  Thanks for coming to my rescue.

I'm just amazed that believers think we're never to judge.  But we have to judge.  Paul told the Corinthians they weren't even able to judge the smallest of matters.  It's not that we're never judge.  Of course we are, but Paul was angered because the Corinthians were dragging their brothers and sisters and neighbors before unbelieving judges to settle matters. 

And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?  (1 Cor. 6:2)

See, the thing I thought was so cool about the story was that the cop convinced the shopkeeper to not do that.  The cop was very, very wise.  He saved them all a tremendous amount of time, heartache and money.  He settled it right there.  I just love that cop.

The Tiny Tim posts can just go straight back to hades where they came from.  I know what you're up to.  Get thee hence.

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