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John from Kentucky:
There are multiple witnesses that prove Satan is the god of this world in 2Cor 4:4.
In both the Old and New Testaments the word for God (Elohim in Hebrew and Theos in Greek) can be used for humans and angels who are rulers, princes, chiefs or in positions of authority. Translators use a capital G for God and a lower case g when referring to others.
The scriptural proof of the use of god for rulers and other authorities are, among others, Psalm 82:6 and John 10:34-35. The teacher in John 10 is Jesus Himself.
Thus god, prince, ruler, chief, power are synonyms.
Therefore, the god of this world being Satan is established by the following Scriptures:
2Cor 4:4
Eph 2:2
Eph 6:12
John 12:31
John 14:30
John 16:11
1John 5:19
There are many more Scriptures that show Satan rules this present world and has many powers, all of course given to him by God.
However those who reject the 2 witnesses, will not be convinced by more witnesses. For those who do not tremble at the Word of God, who kill the two witnesses on the streets of Jerusalem, they will not understand. The god of this world has deceived their thoughts.
Only the Spirit of God through Jesus can bring understanding of spiritual things.
Dave in Tenn:
YLT 1Co 8:4 Concerning the eating then of the things sacrificed to idols, we have known that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God except one;
1Co 8:5 for even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven, whether upon earth--as there are gods many and lords many--
1Co 8:6 yet to us is one God, the Father, of whom are the all things, and we to Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are the all things, and we through Him;
What makes a 'god' which is no god--"nothing in the world"? I reckon it's worship. If one worships a statue, it is his god, even though it is only a piece of wood or stone, or whatever. What makes a god or lord which IS something in the world? I reckon it's still worship.
Sometime back, I was exchanging PM's with a member concerning the scripture that Jesus quoted when He said:
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
and I said, in effect: If 'we' are gods, it begs the question "what kind of god are we/am I?"
Not the kind of god who makes all things and without Whom nothing that has been made was made. Not the kind of God who humbled Himself and became a man, obedient in all things even unto death--and not just any death, but the death of the cross (at least not in any way other than to follow Him).
Is Satan the God of this world? He would be the god of this world even if he did not exist. But the earth and the heavens belong to the One God. Even better, to 'us', He has given authority to become the sons of God. And the "all things" are "of Him" and "through Him"...and even we are in there somewhere.
rick:
This tread has been very interesting, as well as revealing or better put, exposing those who contradict.
I can only speak of myself and my experiences in life especially those things I was taught by Christendom by way of the church or the tv evangelists I once watch or the books I read. They are all the same with a difference here or there.
I was under the belief system that when Adam and Eve fell in the garden of Eden they gave ownership of this earth to Satan.
I discovered through Bible Truths that there really was never a fall in the garden of Eden and that Adam and Eve were sinners before they took from the tree of good and evil.
Now I’m thinking there is only one God, one true God, so how can Satan be a god if there is only one God ? I know Jesus referred to us or people as gods in the scripture, so if Satan is a god he would be a god spelled with a small g only.
I find that I have some truth in me but also lies from my past are still present, who will save me from this body of death? I thank God through Jesus Christ that Jesus will save me , wants to save me and intends to save me, that’s who will save me. :)
Dave in Tenn:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3614.msg27041.html#msg27041
I guess we can let this run a while longer, but considering where we are and why we are here, I thought it might be good to post the link above. Ray was quoted in this thread as having taught that scripture teaches that satan is the god of this world. There are a lot of other 'concepts' and 'truths' attached to this, and some 'knowledge' of these may be required as well. I'll just name three: 1. Satan. 2. God. 3. World.
I posted a link to teaching on "satan". There are others within the LOF series. "God" is a title, and other things carry that title as well. "World" as Ray explained in the quote is not "the heavens and the earth", but the "nations". I doubt that even THAT word adequately covers what constitutes the "world" according to scripture, but it's at least true.
Anyway: Read the link above if you are still perplexed and want to continue. Otherwise, continue your study.
Mike Gagne:
Darn flesh gets in the way all the time... :o :D 8)
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