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Fined over 100k for not baking a wedding cake!
lilitalienboi16:
This shop in oregan refused to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple and that cake has now turned into a whopping 100k+ dollar cake! Ouch!
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/306447-2-tough-weekend-controversial-christian-bakery-receives-135000-fine-gofundme-account-canceled/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_content=ijreview&utm_campaign=Life
Here is the interview with the couple who own the bakery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMffkPWVI6U
I know we had a long discussion in that previous thread (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,16110.0.html) about providing services to gay couples and actually attending their weddings. Most of us agreed we could provide the service without issue as it doesn't require us to condone their behavior or participate in it but that attending their wedding and celebrating their union was crossing the line; However, these poor people are only standing on what they believe the Lord Jesus would do. They don't have the same understanding we do and we only do by the grace and mercy of God. Now they're going out of business, might lose their homes, and have been branded hate mongers.
Ironically I was reading Habakkuk the minor prophet yesterday night and I sort of thought of his words when thinking about this issue in our country and what is going on in the world around us.
Habakkuk 1
1 This is the message that came to the prophet Habakkuk in a vision from God:
2 O Lord, how long must I call for help before you will listen? I shout to you in vain; there is no answer. “Help! Murder!” I cry, but no one comes to save.
3 Must I forever see this sin and sadness all around me? Wherever I look I see oppression and bribery and men who love to argue and to fight.
4 The law is not enforced, and there is no justice given in the courts, for the wicked far outnumber the righteous, and bribes and trickery prevail.
5 The Lord replied: “Look, and be amazed! You will be astounded at what I am about to do! For I am going to do something in your own lifetime that you will have to see to believe.
6 I am raising a new force on the world scene, the Chaldeans,[a] a cruel and violent nation who will march across the world and conquer it.
7 They are notorious for their cruelty. They do as they like, and no one can interfere.
8 Their horses are swifter than leopards. They are a fierce people, more fierce than wolves at dusk. Their cavalry move proudly forward from a distant land; like eagles they come swooping down to pounce upon their prey.
9 All opposition melts away before the terror of their presence. They collect captives like sand.
10 “They scoff at kings and princes and scorn their forts. They simply heap up dirt against their walls and capture them!
11 They sweep past like wind and are gone, but their guilt is deep, for they claim their power is from their gods.”
12 O Lord my God, my Holy One, you who are from aforetime—is your plan in all of this to wipe us out? Surely not! O God our Rock, you have decreed the rise of these Chaldeans to chasten and correct us for our awful sins.
13 We are wicked, but they far more! Will you, who cannot allow sin in any form, stand idly by while they swallow us up? Should you be silent while the wicked destroy those who are better than they?
14 Are we but fish, to be caught and killed? Are we but creeping things that have no leader to defend them from their foes?
15 Must we be strung up on their hooks and dragged out in their nets, while they rejoice?
16 Then they will worship their nets and burn incense before them! “These are the gods who make us rich,” they’ll say.
17 Will you let them get away with this forever? Will they succeed continually in their heartless wars?
These types of issues appear to be becoming more and more commonplace. Lord only knows where it will end.
God bless,
Alex
rick:
Hello Alex,
Try to imagine a Jewish baker being approached by modern day Nazis that want him to bake a cake celebrating the holocaust, I guess he would be fined one million dollars if he refused.
We live in a perverse country these days and although I am an American citizen living in America my profound hope is that God does pass judgement on this county and its politicians that write these ridiculous laws they shove down our throats.
America, number one baby killer of the world. >:(
indianabob:
Hi Rick,
It would seem that God has already passed judgment. Now we are waiting for the execution of judgement that will surely come on this and all nations
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As believing Christians we need to have a forgiving attitude toward the repented sins of others, but we also can accept that justice is in the future of any who haven't yet repented.
Some day we will be administering justice and then it will be as members of the body of Christ and it will be righteous. For now we need only put our trust in God that all things will proceed as they should for the benefit of mankind and the glory of God.
I-bob
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Rick on April 26, 2015, 05:40:48 PM ---Hello Alex,
Try to imagine a Jewish baker being approached by modern day Nazis that want him to bake a cake celebrating the holocaust, I guess he would be fined one million dollars if he refused.
We live in a perverse country these days and although I am an American citizen living in America my profound hope is that God does pass judgement on this county and its politicians that write these ridiculous laws they shove down our throats.
America, number one baby killer of the world. >:(
--- End quote ---
Hi Rick,
To add to what Ol Bob said, Ray did seem to believe that judgment was upon America and that the two towers was God's warning of to repent.
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Make no mistake about it: There will be hell to pay in the years ahead. Our sins have reached to high heaven, and our leaders fiddle while our great spiritual leaders "speak unto us SMOOTH things and prophesy DECEIT" in our darkest hours and in our greatest need to repent and turn to God. I don’t apologize for how that sounds to many of you, but not to all, I hope.
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I am by no means a prophet or as spiritual learned as I pray and beg God to be but it seems to me that this judgement is surely coming and it is very near for this country and the world.
God will keep us. We all trust in the Almighty and He is our refuge. He will never cause us to be ashamed, those who are called by His name. He will never let our enemies say, "Look, they have trusted in their God, and now, where is their God?" Not for our righteousness but because of His mercies and for His glory.
God bless,
Alex
lareli:
Alex you said..
"To add to what Ol Bob said, Ray did seem to believe that judgment was upon America and that the two towers was God's warning of to repent."
What is God wanting us to repent of? I don't remember if Ray covered this in the towers paper.
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