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lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: largeli on April 29, 2015, 01:54:12 PM ---Alex you said..
"To add to what Ol Bob said, Ray did seem to believe that judgment was upon America and that the two towers was God's warning of to repent."
What is God wanting us to repent of? I don't remember if Ray covered this in the towers paper.
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Read my post above, I quoted where ray said this nation needed to repent. If you're asking what specifically ray said this nation needed to repent of, I don't know if he did. He did say;
"There was a time when there was more right with America than there was wrong with America, but that can no longer honestly be said. I love this country, and my roots here are as deep as anyone's. On my great grandmother’s side, Joris Jansen De Rapalje and Catelyntje Jeronimus Trico De Ralphaje are my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather and grandmother."
God always brought judgment upon His people because they failed to repent time after time despite His many warnings. Now God has warned this nation that was once a "Christian nation," a nation called by His name, to repent but we continue to spiral deeper into apostasy.
Maybe its just as Isaiah said;
Isaiah 1:5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
Nevertheless, things are going exactly as God has planned so all we can do is trust in Him and by His grace and mercy walk after Him.
lareli:
Yes I see where Ray said that we are being judged and warned but I was asking what specifically we are being judged for.. I know a lot of Christians will say were being judged for our treatment and acceptance of homosexuality, abortion, etc. just didn't know if Ray ever said what, exactly, we should be repenting of.
lareli:
Ray spent a lot of time, energy, and effort in writing a paper showing us that America is being judged/warned and that there's going to be hell to pay if we don't repent. He put a picture to this paper and put it at the top of the home screen for every visitor to see. It's the only one of his papers with a picture on the home page. Seems to me he really wanted to make sure everyone read this paper.. He showed in great detail why he believes America is being judged/warned and needs to repent.. But he never said what America needs to repent of.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: largeli on April 29, 2015, 02:56:49 PM ---Yes I see where Ray said that we are being judged and warned but I was asking what specifically we are being judged for.. I know a lot of Christians will say were being judged for our treatment and acceptance of homosexuality, abortion, etc. just didn't know if Ray ever said what, exactly, we should be repenting of.
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Yea I don't think ray ever made specifics. I don't think we have to. Everywhere we turn there is injustice, violence, greed, thievery, hypocrisy, lies, lovers of self, etc... I see it everywhere. I turn on the news and its all over the place. It appears to be rampant... that's why I wrote in my original post that the prophecy of Habuk was as if I was reading a prophecy directed right at our country and for our time. He might as well have been talking to America. I think the Christians are just as guilty though. After all, it was God's people that had provoked Him to anger, not the pagans though they got their due recompense as well. We also know that satan's throne is in the church so it is certainly not without blame but we, as God has called and chosen, have come out of Babylon so as not to be partakers of her plagues. I think as long as we obey God and throw ourselves at His mercy when we sin that He is faithful and will keep us. Remember when Elisha cried to God that Israel had killed His prophets and destroyed His alters, God responded by telling him that He had reserved a remnant. Paul even affirms this.
Romans 11
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
1 Kings 19:14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
1 Kings 19:18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.
1 Peter
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
So there is nothing to fear. If God is for us, who can be against us?
God bless,
Alex
lilitalienboi16:
This might help in understanding repentance. It might have the answers you're looking for;
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3709.0.html
God bless,
Alex
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