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All from Adam and Noah?
Joel:
Genesis 2:6-But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
What would the earth have looked like geographically before downpours of rain?
Whatever Adam was doing in the garden must not have been back breaking labor that caused him to sweat.
Cursed ground and "sweat of thy face" comes after judgment. Genesis 3:17-19
Genesis 7:11-In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
12-And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
How much water could have been added by the fountains of the GREAT DEEP?
Is there a difference in windows of heaven, and rain from heaven?
What parts of the earth see rainbows?
Genesis 8:2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;
What was Noah saying to the ungodly during his time of preaching? Had the people ever seen rain?
If rain was common during the time of Noah, were there not rainbows also? I don't think so.
Genesis 9:13-I do now set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
2 Peter 2:5-And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly.
Joel
indianabob:
Hi Joel,
Thanks for the added comments.
There are a multitude of options for what the earth, the planet, looked like before recorded history came along about 4500 years ago. The mountain heights, the frozen poles, the vegetation, the numbers of humans living on this planet etc.
The fact is that we, commoners as well as the great minds of science, just don't know how the earth appeared or how the climate functioned during the past millennia.
The billions of papers written on the subject are plain speculation based upon the opinions of previous science writers of plain speculation.
To my mind, sincere speculation is O. K., but it (speculation) should not contradict inspired scripture no matter how many thousands or millions of scientist concur with it.
Isn't the spiritual lesson that mankind, doing what seemed right to themselves, had become so evil that God had to start over with eight not so perfect individuals?
And don't we, who believe God, realize that God knew from the beginning that a "do over" would be needed? I think so...
And there is another "do over" coming soon.
Ole "indianabob"
rick:
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And don't we, who believe God, realize that God knew from the beginning that a "do over" would be needed? I think so...
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Hi Bob,
I知 not sure how to interpret your statement above, for one to say God needs to do a do over in my opinion is saying God made a mistake and needs to correct the mistake He made in my opinion.
Its to my understanding we humans are made in vanity in order to learn virtue through righteousness otherwise all this evil and wickedness in our lives would be in vain.
I値l be first to admit there are so many things I don稚 understand concerning spiritual things, I was just reading on this forum that some have the view that Adam and Eve are symbolic but I say if that is so then maybe I知 symbolic too but I believe Adam and Eve were real people just like me.
I wonder can a person be so spiritual or heavenly minded that they become no earthly good ? :)
dave:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on May 04, 2015, 11:20:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on May 04, 2015, 10:52:04 AM ---First rain. Gen 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
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Earth:
From an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land): - X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X nations, way, + wilderness, world.
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I don't quite understand. I posted the first time rain in mentioned, what has From an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land): - X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X nations, way, + wilderness, world.
to do with anything?
indianabob:
Hi Rick,
Thank you for the sincere critique.
Sorry to be obtuse in my comments. Short statements such as mine are prone to be misunderstood. I knew what I was thinking, but did not make my thoughts clear.
1. I agree that God does not make mistakes.
2. The "do over" I was referring to was meant to acknowledge that God was doing his will in more than one phase. That God knew exactly what Adam and Eve would do and what all of their children would do. AND that God was not in the least surprised. God knew that he would have to destroy the whole population AND all the gross things that they had built. Especially considering that they would most probably retain their memories of what life had been like during their first life and it would not be helpful for them to believe that God approved of the way they had lived then.
So then from the human perspective, the fact of the need to begin again with Noah to spread the human population over the whole earth, could seem to be a "do over".
Of course God had everything under His control and knew from the beginning that this burying of the first population of humans was to reserve them to a later time when God's son would be ruling in righteousness and justice.
In like manner, the population that came from Noah and spread over the earth once again will need to be put to sleep and then brought back when conditions are right for the teaching of righteousness. So that then is the second or subsequent "do over" (phase 2)
All planned from the beginning although not revealed by God to the general population and in fact not revealed unto the prophets or even the angels of God until God was ready to reveal His mysteries to a select group of called out persons that God would then use for His own great purpose of teaching righteousness under the reign of His son Jesus.
I hope that will explain a little better and thank you for bringing my poor explanation to my attention.
Sincerely, indianabob
--- Quote from: Rick on May 04, 2015, 07:36:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: indianabob on May 04, 2015, 05:51:46 PM ---
And don't we, who believe God, realize that God knew from the beginning that a "do over" would be needed? I think so...
--- End quote ---
Hi Bob,
I知 not sure how to interpret your statement above, for one to say God needs to do a do over in my opinion is saying God made a mistake and needs to correct the mistake He made in my opinion.
Its to my understanding we humans are made in vanity in order to learn virtue through righteousness otherwise all this evil and wickedness in our lives would be in vain.
I値l be first to admit there are so many things I don稚 understand concerning spiritual things, I was just reading on this forum that some have the view that Adam and Eve are symbolic but I say if that is so then maybe I知 symbolic too but I believe Adam and Eve were real people just like me.
I wonder can a person be so spiritual or heavenly minded that they become no earthly good ? :)
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