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I discovered it was all in vain.
Kat:
Hi Rick,
Mat 5:14 "You are the light of the world. A city located on a hill can't be hidden.
v. 15 People don't light a lamp and put it under a basket but on a lamp stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.
v. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before people in such a way that they will see your good actions and glorify your Father in heaven."
I brought this Scripture because I believe that we can be witnesses of the truth (light) by the way we live, the things we say and our conduct before others. This is how we let our "light shine" to any and everyone sees that we are overcoming the flesh by living this truth and putting on Christ.
Mat 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
I have been in situations where I disagreed with what was being said and I said so, I think people may think you agree if you remain silent, but I seldom go further, certainly don't get up and preach to them. I believe throwing our pearls before swine is when you speak these precious truths before people that have shown no indication that they desire to know these things or throwing these truth out to random people your around hoping somebody will get it and believe it, IMO that's what that Scripture is speaking of.
God knows those few chosen to be His elect, before the foundation of the world and I believe He has been preparing and dealing with them all their lives. Even with those God does not open their eyes until He is ready to show them these truths and He can certainly show them where to find BT and this group whenever He desires.
Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
v. 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
v. 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
v. 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Mike Gagne:
Thats right Kat! He opens are eyes here a little, there little. Precept upon precept, line upon line. I agree with you Kat that God Knows His Elect and has been dealing with them there whole lives!
Psa 44:19 Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death...
You just don't come here and believe these teaching on your own! God certainly has to bring you here and open your eyes to the truths being taught at these two web sites, forums bible truths and exposing those who contradict. I know a few christian that have read some of LRays teachings and said he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. They came and they were kept from the truth, God never opened there eyes. Its not for them yet, each in their own order... Thanks Kat :D
Joel:
Hi Rick,
The way I see it if we are lead by the Spirit of God, nothing he has us to do is in vain.
There are some Jehovah's Witnesses that have been leaving material at my front door lately when we aren't at home.
I have some of Ray's material printed out also, and intend to give it to them if we are home the next time they come knocking. I won't be disappointed if they don't bite, it's all in God's hands.
Joel
lareli:
Rick you don't think we have 10 years left till the end of the age.. If I were to agree with you I'd be a date setter... If I disagreed I'd be a fool. May He come quickly.
rickylittleton:
The most folks that I have any dealing with, and that include most my family, are the church folks! And dealing with them for most of the time that I met Ray and came across his teaching on the salvation of all, I have learned one thing; Folks are going to believe what they believe until God Himself open their eyes! And that's the way it is! Tim
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