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John from Kentucky:
I   I   I

Me  Me  Me

Mine  Mine  Mine


At this moment, there are millions of your fellow human beings suffering war, murder, starvation, rape and sexual abuse---no home---no food--no hope.  They suffer the ravages from the Four Horsemen--Religious deception, war, hunger and disease.

To the extent you are not suffering as they, pray to God and thank God, for the many blessings you have.

Prayer is not for giving us goodies.  There is no free will.  God will not change from what He has predetermined for each of us.

As Jesus showed us.  There is one and only one prayer that is ever answered.  God's will be done.

God will provide for us.  God will save us.  There is nothing to fear.  We will have only the broad, sunlit, uplands of life, both now and in the ages to come.

Dennis Vogel:
This may help: https://youtu.be/7UYCSC_5xnQ

Jeff:
John from Kentucky,

Phil 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Supplication: need, indigence, want, a seeking, asking, entreaty to God (to desire, long for, to beg)
Request: petition (to ask for, beg, call for)

God's will is always done regardless, but we're instructed to ask.  I would never pray for anything but God's will, but I also believe the Scriptures.

The witness:

I Jhn 5:14-15

14 And this is the boldness that we have toward Him, that if anything we may ask according to his will, He doth hear us, 15 and if we have known that He doth hear us, whatever we may ask, we have known that we have the requests that we have requested from Him.

My only prayer for myself, today, is that God will keep me from harm, and only if that's His will.

I don't expect anyone to understand depression, but I can no more heal myself from that, than I could will a broken leg to heal.


John from Kentucky:
Most everyone here says they understand what Ray taught, but few actually read and understand from the Scriptures Ray quoted.

Everyone has their own opinions that they cling to.

Below is something Ray wrote on prayer using multiple Scriptures.  Just as Jesus did in the Garden, the only prayer that works is Your (God's) will be done.


http://bible-truths.com/praying.htm



But Christians don't understand.  They pray for girlfriends, money, jobs, houses, health, happiness etc., etc.--gimmee, gimmee, gimmee---I,I,I, me,me,me, mine, mine,mine.  I want it, and I want it now.  And God, if I don't get stuff, I'll hold my breathe and be unhappy.

Follow Jesus.  Jesus came to serve, and not to be served.

Jeff:
John,

Maybe I'm confused and you can set me straight.  This is the "Prayer Requests" part of the forum?

Your link to Ray's paper on "Praying" is something I read for the 4th or 5th time, most recently, 2 days before I posted my request for "prayer" in the "Prayer Requests" section of the forum. In fact, that paper is what prompted me to come here.

If you aren't engaged enough to actually write something relevant, why bother?  I'm sure you have better things to do.

Wow.

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