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"So - Is there any difference?"
Jeff:
Kat,
Over the years you've provided a consistently sound perspective regarding God's word and Ray's teachings - so many have. I'm blessed by your responses over and over. You have the mind and heart of Christ, and not just you, but truly everyone here. Your last response in this thread was inspired. You would put yourself in harms way to protect, but not resort to violence - that is of God.
This is the message of Christ - sacrifice, obedience, faith. The faith that, if we do our best according to God's will, He'll provide what we lack.
Philippians 4:19 "But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus"
This is Thanksgiving and I'm thankful for everyone here.
Jeff
indianabob:
Friend Kat,
I appreciate your recent comments.
One thing that I haven't noticed being mentioned yet is to completely put our trust in God's protection.
That way we won't have to worry about using lethal force to defend our selves or the children we are responsible for.
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HOWEVER...for this approach to work effectively we each need to stay close to God every day in every way.
We cannot wait until a threat or other emergency arises, we must put our lives in God's hand every morning and every evening and as we walk our walk in daily life.
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God will protect HIS own until their training is completed AND God will intervene for our dear loved ones for our behalf, on our behalf as well. The only thing we need to do is recognize that we NEED that protection and to humble ourselves to seek God's protection ALWAYS.
I've handled guns since I was 16 and in the Military Police and as a police officer for six years. I used to train and practice and learn ways to avoid trouble and what to do if trouble came to me. However, as happens to all of us if we live long enough, I got old! My judo training doesn't help any more and my trigger finger is so arthritic that I can't pull the trigger. Now I have to trust that others will protect me and the best friend to have when trouble comes is our loving creator. That is where I stand now because I have no other choice.
Indiana Bob
Terry:
My Goodness this is a hard one for sure, is true we have Gods word that instructs us on how we are to live,and it would be great to be able to do it, as much as i want to do it, and do the best i can i still come up way short,i'm weak, my faith is weak, i pray that nothing ever happens that i would have to take a life to protect my wife or children but i probably would,i have weapons for hunting,i think of them as insurance also,have you ever heard the sound of a pump shotgun injecting a shell,i know i wouldn't want to be on the business end of that,maybe thats all it would take,as i said i just pray God keeps me safe from all of that,just being honest here.
Terry
Colin:
Hi Largeli
I discovered from where I had done the transcription (many years ago) that included Ray's mention of the "gun and the Rotweiler".
It is in the second half and close to the end of the audio, reference http://bible-truths.com/audio/9-3-06MobileConf.7.mp3
I knew if I looked hard enough, I would find it. Sorry it took me so long to track it down. Colin
cjwood:
i know this is a serious discussion, but, if a drunk came into a restaurant looking for a fight and slapped manuela around, that man would have made a huge mistake. he obviously wouldn't have know who he was dealing with. she used to work for the police force. she can be a rottweiler if needed. she has a gun. ;D ;)
claudia
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