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rick:
Hi Dennis,
I think I understand something as a truth only to be told I could not be further from the truth.
I'm not angry or even disappointed , if its Gods will I don't understand how to divide the word of God rightly then I'm out .
God concealed and hid a wonderful work He is doing in this world from my eyes, many are called but few are chosen.
I have been blessed to see and understand somethings from this site, the greatest thing I learned from B.t. is that our creator is not a monster but a loving creator.
Its obvious I dont get it and am not one of Gods elect but only one of the called who God is not going to choose.
Whatever God is going to do to me is going to happen and there is nothing I can do about it so I say why worry about it anyways.
God bless you all and I hope you all make it and become Gods elect.
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: Rick on April 03, 2016, 11:01:48 PM ---Hi Dennis,
I think I understand something as a truth only to be told I could not be further from the truth.
I'm not angry or even disappointed , if its Gods will I don't understand how to divide the word of God rightly then I'm out .
God concealed and hid a wonderful work He is doing in this world from my eyes, many are called but few are chosen.
I have been blessed to see and understand somethings from this site, the greatest thing I learned from B.t. is that our creator is not a monster but a loving creator.
Its obvious I dont get it and am not one of Gods elect but only one of the called who God is not going to choose.
Whatever God is going to do to me is going to happen and there is nothing I can do about it so I say why worry about it anyways.
God bless you all and I hope you all make it and become Gods elect.
--- End quote ---
Nobody told you you couldn't be further from the truth. Do you honestly think anybody here understands all things? But yes, you have to live these things to understand them with any depth. Jesus doesn't dismiss those who don't know enough. He dismisses those He never knew. Your race is not over (unless you stop and disqualify yourself.). Hang in there, but if you want to "teach", you will have to prove yourself. Nobody is going to annoint you.
cheekie3:
Rick -
Are there any amongst us here on this Forum that can fully explain these Scriptures in Romans which appear to contradict in part about sin:
Romans 5:21
That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:1
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Romans 6:2
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:7
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:10
For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Romans 6:11
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:12
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Romans 6:13
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
To me, in some Scriptures, not just in Romans, we are not to allow sin to rule over us. I can attest to this, as He has made this possible for me. Yet I am not perfect and make mistakes from time to time, which are stated as sin in the Scriptures (although I still struggle somewhat with a mistake being a sin - as I believe He looks at our motivation in our hearts and minds to determine if it is sin). Yet there are many facets of my daily life that I would change, but it is not in my power or authority to do so.
The whole aspect of His Sovereignty is mind boggling when compared to us as individuals. Why was I blind for so long. Why was I deceived at all. Why have I suffered so much. Why are the parasites and psychopaths in control of our daily lives.
Apart from our living and suffering which produces Godly characteristics (the nine fold Fruit of the Spirit) - which again I can attest He has worked out in my life - I find all the evil in this world with the lies, deception and wickedness too much for me to comprehend. I compare what we are told as 'News' to what I experience in my day to day life and there is a tremendous mismatch, as I find ordinary working people mostly ones that 'do no harm'; yet we are told of terrorists, criminals, psychopaths and wickedness daily in the 'News'.
I know that He knows that I do not want to sin and I want to obey His Blessed Commandments in Christ Jesus all day long; and I desire that all mankind do the same.
Hang on in there Rick.
Amen.
Kind Regards.
George.
Dennis Vogel:
(CLV) I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.
(Rotherham) And I gave my heart to seek and to search out, wisely, concerning all things which are done under the heavens,—the same, is the vexatious employment God hath given to the sons of men, to work toilsomely therein,
(YLT) And I have given my heart to seek and to search out by wisdom concerning all that hath been done under the heavens. It is a sad travail God hath given to the sons of man to be humbled by it.
(ASV) And I applied my heart to seek and to search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under heaven: it is a sore travail that God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised therewith.
The church has this 'feel good' philosophy. But like everything else they teach is wrong.
You cannot justify your sins by passing on the cause to sin. Sin is there to make you understand what a wretched man you are.
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Kat:
Hi George, yes this world is filled with all manners of evil... but if you think about it, the evil that is exhibited in humans is what God designed, with limitations, for this world. I mean He could have made the human body to suffer or feel much more pain or not die so quick as we do, there is no doubt numerous other things He could have designed to afflict more pain and suffering on us. But that is not all that this life is about, to just make us suffer.
Isn't all this that He is doing, giving us such a broad range of experiences, so that every person can become unique individuals? I mean all our experiences form the character and even shape our personality... and as you said there is a tremendous difference in the ordinary working people and the reported terrorists, criminals, psychopaths and wickedness daily in the 'News'. So there you have this huge variance in the world of what people experience and therefore makes huge variance in who/what they become. Didn't Christ, God Himself, come in the world and suffer as we do, wasn't that sacrifice worth all that people have to endure in this life and redeem us all? Of course it was.
Isa 53:4 "But He endured the suffering that should have been ours, the pain that we should have borne. All the while we thought that His suffering was punishment sent by God.
v. 5 But because of our sins He was wounded, beaten because of the evil we did. We are healed by the punishment He suffered, made whole by the blows He received.
Now He is just working with a very few, but only by mercy and grace of His Spirit can we be overcomers. And we can be assured that God is able to redeem every single person, no matter how deranged, He can and will purge and cleanse everybody. Isn't this all for God's ultimate glory, what he is able to accomplish, in His greatness, not only will He save all mankind, but to make all that has been endured right in the end?
Rom 5:19 And just as all people were made sinners as the result of the disobedience of one man, in the same way they will all be put right with God as the result of the obedience of the one man.
v. 20 Law was introduced in order to increase wrongdoing; but where sin increased, God's grace increased much more.
v. 21 So then, just as sin ruled by means of death, so also God's grace rules by means of righteousness, leading us to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (GNB)
Sometimes we get so overwhelmed by what we see happening in this world that we lose sight of what God is accomplishing here. I trust that God's ultimate gift of a glorious life without end, for all that have ever lived, far exceeds anything that people suffer in this life.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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