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1 John 5: 4 .
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 02, 2016, 06:27:57 PM ---
--- Quote ---Regarding our New Man, I was merely pointing out what John The Baptist said, in that he must diminish (and continue to diminish), so Christ increases, and continues to increase.
Is this not a Parable of our Old Man (represented by John the Baptist's ministry) and Our New Man (In Christ)?
As our Old man diminishes, does not Our New Man increase?
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I think you are embracing a theological concept that goes far beyond what scripture talks about as the "new man" or the "new humanity". It seems to me to be core to some people's teaching, but not something that Ray espoused to any great extent, if at all. If he did, I'd like to see it.
In short, it is no parable to say that I must decrease and He must increase. In every way that John 'decreased', Jesus increased...in the natural, in the message, in the ministry, in the effect of all of it.
I don't think of myself as "having" a new man. I think of myself as becoming a new man. And this I see as a quite "practical" (in that Spiritual IS practical) experience, that leaves me not as two men, but as one man with an internal war going on. I was too happy to get rid of the concept that *I* was a three-part 'person' to quickly put on the notion that now I am really TWO PEOPLE--one old and one new. As far as I'm concerned, I am ONE PERSON who sometimes thinks and does NEW, and sometimes thinks and does OLD. And THAT all by itself, is NEW. Before, the "option" to do and think NEW didn't even exist in me.
If you want to argue the point with me, feel free. I'm not a theologian. But at the very least provide scripture that doesn't depend on a theological interpretation to be understood. Otherwise, you'll lose me in the fog.
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Very much in agreement Dave with your understanding.
lostANDfound:
Rick I have been mulling over what to say to you. I have talked to many people about their experiences as parents and I believe that most of us harbour a special guilt regarding our first born children. They are our teachers in this business of parenting, the receivers of our mistakes as we fumble our way through. I'm saying this to comfort you, so that you know that this is a shared phenomena, that we all learn this way. I am so sorry for you and your loss. I'm sorry for the deluge of feelings you must be sorting through now. The memories you want to hang on to. The memories you wish you could forget. Your sister is weeping with you today.
jingle52:
Rick,
I too offer my heartfelt condolences for your great loss and apologize for this late post. I know that time will heal this great sorrow, gaping wound and emptiness, but for now, please know that you are in all our thoughts and prayers. May the God of peace and understanding be with you in this trying time and comfort you and your family.
Jingle
rick:
--- Quote from: lostANDfound on August 02, 2016, 07:36:40 PM ---Rick I have been mulling over what to say to you. I have talked to many people about their experiences as parents and I believe that most of us harbour a special guilt regarding our first born children. They are our teachers in this business of parenting, the receivers of our mistakes as we fumble our way through. I'm saying this to comfort you, so that you know that this is a shared phenomena, that we all learn this way. I am so sorry for you and your loss. I'm sorry for the deluge of feelings you must be sorting through now. The memories you want to hang on to. The memories you wish you could forget. Your sister is weeping with you today.
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Hi LostAndfound ,
Its always difficult to find any words to say to someone who is mourning the loss of a loved one, one can even feel awkward at times as what to say.
I lost my wife Seven years earlier and the emotional pain takes time before one can heal. At the time of my wife's death I did not understand who God really was even that He is sovereign , I believed in free will and hell.
Today I understand many truths here at B.T. But these truths don't prevent the emotional upset I'm experiencing but unlike with my wife my grieving still hurts but today I have a strong foundation in Gods truths which make all the difference in the entire universe to me .
Today I understand that the death of my wife Donna and my son Rick J.r died at their appointed time. I could ask God why but who am I to question the plan of God ? I still find tears in my eyes but God console me inwardly with His wonderful truths .
How blessed am I to be amongst the few who know and understand and believe these truths , I am very blessed by our creator.
i have no guilt in raising my son because I understand every decision I made along the way every choice I made had a cause behind it and that I never was free to make any other choice than the choice I did choose to make.
Everything in life is according to our Gods counsel which His children should not question because our Father is very wise and loving even though sometimes parts of Gods plans pains us to tears.
God bless and thank you my sister in Christ.
rick:
--- Quote from: jingle52 on August 03, 2016, 05:42:31 PM ---Rick,
I too offer my heartfelt condolences for your great loss and apologize for this late post. I know that time will heal this great sorrow, gaping wound and emptiness, but for now, please know that you are in all our thoughts and prayers. May the God of peace and understanding be with you in this trying time and comfort you and your family.
Jingle
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Thank you Jingle for your prayers, I would like to mention that you apologize for your late post but I should like to remind you my brother it was right on Gods timing and not one second late.
God bless to you my brother in Christ.
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