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Did Jesus Christ Ever Claim to Be Almighty God or only The Son of Almighty God
Kat:
--- Quote from: Rick on August 19, 2016, 06:08:45 PM ---I'm wondering now when Jesus said no one has seen God except the son did Jesus mean no one seen God in His spirit form ?
In Isaiah 9:6-7 it does say His name shall be called wonderful,counselor, the mighty God and the ever lasting Father.
I know that no scripture is of its own interpretation but this scripture is plain to understand .
God bless.
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Here are some Scripture, it better to get an understanding when you read all you can find on a subject. I noticed that Jesus did say a number times of the Father "I know Him," which I consider could mean He perceives/understands the Father, not necessarily a visual sighting of Him.
John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the Only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared (Strong's: unfold - declare, tell) Him.
John 5:37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
John 8:55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, 'I do not know Him,' I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word.
John 7:28 Then Jesus cried out, as He taught in the temple, saying, "You both know Me, and you know where I am from; and I have not come of Myself, but He who sent Me is true, whom you do not know.
v. 29 But I know Him, for I am from Him, and He sent Me."
Matt 11:27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
John 14:9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
v. 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.
v. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
John 8:19 Then they said to Him, "Where is Your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also."
Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
in•vis•i•ble \-"vi-ze-bel\ adj 1 : incapable of being seen <~ to the naked eye> 2 : hidden 3 : imperceptible, inconspicuous. (Merriam-Webster)
1Tim 1:17 and to the King of the ages, the incorruptible, invisible, only wise God, is honour and glory--to the ages of the ages! Amen. (Young's)
1John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
cheekie3:
Rick -
What you state is confirmed in The Scriptures:
--- Quote from: Rick on August 19, 2016, 09:34:38 AM ---Hi George,
It is to my understanding there is one God which is the Father and that Jesus came forth from the Father . Jesus is our God and God the Father is Jesus God but God the Father has no God.
Hope that helps.
God bless.
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But, The Scriptures in The New Testament declare that Jesus is The Way to Our Heavenly Father - and there is no other way but through His Beloved Son to The Throne of Our Almighty Creator.
Kind Regards.
Overawed George
cheekie3:
Dave in Tenn -
Thank you for pointing out this enigma that is Our One True God:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 19, 2016, 11:26:33 AM ---Cheekie, if you believe that Jehovah of the Hebrew scriptures became Jesus of the New Testament scriptures, then the answer is more clear.
We've learned from experience that this "issue" is one that can't be hashed out on the forum. I'd just advise any reader to read, watch, or listen to the materials on B-T and challenge your own assumptions. Assumptions are so plentiful, that it's beyond impractical to deal with them all in forum posts.
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You advice is accepted and noted.
We know that God is referred to in the singular and in the plural in the Old testament.
We know from The New Testament that The Father and The Son are One.
Kind regards.
Grateful George
cheekie3:
largeli -
Thank you for your interesting Post:
--- Quote from: largeli on August 19, 2016, 01:04:18 PM ---Are you looking for scripture where Christ referred to Himself as 'Almighty God' specifically using the words 'Almighty God'?
Or are you asking for scripture where He referred to Himself as God and not only the son of God?
In John 8 He says "before Abraham was, I am".
Is this Christ calling Himself God? Is this what you're looking for?
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We know that before the creation of the Heavens and the earth, Jesus (The Son) was with Our Heavenly Father; so Jesus was before Abraham and everyone and everything else, other than His Father - as He was Birthed and came out from His Father.
I was curious to ascertain if Jesus Himself (in The New Testament) actually referred to Himself, and / or called Himself 'Almighty God'.
I know there is a Scripture that states that when Jesus was to be born, one of His Titles was indeed 'Almighty God'.
Kind Regards.
Awestrucked George
cheekie3:
Rick -
You raise a very poignant point:
--- Quote from: Rick on August 19, 2016, 02:49:40 PM ---Matthew 27:46 Jesus Cries out my God my God why have you forsaken me.
How would this fit in with Jesus being God Almighty if there is only one God ?
Interesting post George.
God bless.
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We know that Jesus has a God (His Father who gave Birth to Him: and of whom He came out of); and we also know that Our Heavenly Father has no one higher than Himself - so Our Heavenly Father is the beginning of all things, and Our Father has no other (gods) beside Him.
In the New Testament, we are told that Jesus is One with The Father - and no one can come to The Father but through and via Jesus Christ (His Beloved Son and spokeman).
Kind Regards.
Humble (and feeling very minute in the presence of Our Almighty Father and Our Lord Jesus Christ) George
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