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Can he come today?
lilitalienboi16:
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--- Quote from: DEJI on November 20, 2016, 04:25:13 PM ---Jesus Christ said he would come like a thief in the night. He won't give any clues as to his coming. I think Ray said somewhere that every generation of believers since Jesus ascended to heaven has always thought Jesus would come back in their own lifetime.
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But Paul said that: "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief" 1 Thes 5:4
According to Paul, Jesus arrival will not surprise us?
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Because we are always watching and not slumbering. That doesn't mean we can know the time or day though. It just means that when He does appear, we will be waiting, and thus not taken by surprise.
Mark 13
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
1 Thessalonians 5
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
So we watch and wait, God willing, and God willing He shall appear soon.
God bless,
Alex
Hellisfake:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on November 20, 2016, 05:27:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hellisfake on November 20, 2016, 05:08:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: DEJI on November 20, 2016, 04:25:13 PM ---Jesus Christ said he would come like a thief in the night. He won't give any clues as to his coming. I think Ray said somewhere that every generation of believers since Jesus ascended to heaven has always thought Jesus would come back in their own lifetime.
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But Paul said that: "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief" 1 Thes 5:4
According to Paul, Jesus arrival will not surprise us?
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Because we are always watching and not slumbering. That doesn't mean we can know the time or day though. It just means that when He does appear, we will be waiting, and thus not taken by surprise.
Mark 13
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
1 Thessalonians 5
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
So we watch and wait, God willing, and God willing He shall appear soon.
God bless,
Alex
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So the future for the beliver is like a blank paper, no signs, no unfulfilled prophecy, no event we haft to wait for before he can come. Just be ready. Iagree with you. Thats the way God want it to be, so we dont have rong focus on something, else but the Lord.
Thanks for your reply:)
Musterseed:
Although we don't know the date or hour, I think there are many things happening to indicate
The social, racial. Religion, police state, surveillance obsessed, rumours of wars, hate crimes, passing disgusting laws, cash grabbing, corruption in government, etc. And I'm just talking about Canada. I believe the Lord is opening up the eyes of many and exposing much corruption. There is a lot of evil out there and Ray speaks about it in his paper on Tophet and Molech In Hinnom.
Coupled with his paper on the two towers, he is giving us a lot of information .
World wide deception is a necessary part of Gods plan.
Matt 24:24
For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive
[if possible] even the elect. If .... a tiny powerful word.🙏🏼
Dave in Tenn:
In all of those ways, there have been worse times, and certainly worse times elsewhere at some points in History. There may be worse times ahead, or there may be better times. There are also worse times for some while being better times for others. The sea of Humanity is raging. Raging seas are not worse and worse and worse. They are raging. Waves can only be compared to waves. I know this isn't a popular message. Lord knows, I've been told all my life that the world is getting worse and soon to end. People love their doomsday. Who am I to argue? He said He'd calm the waves. I'm looking forward to that.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
If you haven't fallen away and it hasn't been revealed to you that you are the "man of sin" and the "son of perdition", then don't look elsewhere for the sign of His coming.
http://bible-truths.com/lake13.html
http://bible-truths.com/lake14.html
Understand, I don't expect the world to behave differently. I expect it to "rage" until it is quieted.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
I don't even expect the "church" to behave differently, though many do--primarily those who aren't too deeply set in their "religion".
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh (Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like) with the affections and desires.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Hellisfake:
So, can we say, yes, He can come today?
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