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Can he come today?
Dave in Tenn:
He's been coming today for His few for 2000 years.
Act 17:31 ...he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness (He's not now judging the world) by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
That "day" could be today. If anybody thinks otherwise, I'm not going to argue.
arion:
--- Quote from: Hellisfake on November 21, 2016, 07:16:28 PM ---So, can we say, yes, He can come today?
--- End quote ---
Sure. He can come for you or me today and kill us in death. Dwelling on all the other fru fru I'm not sure is productive. Kind of like debating about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
lareli:
Ray said that his thoughts on when the end of the world would be changed after 9/11
WHEN IS THE END OF THIS WORLD?
Over the years I have been asked many times whether or not I thought the end of this world was near and the coming of our Lord was at hand? This question is usually asked with reference to some recent happening in the world, such as a war or rumor of wars, bad weather, famine, a new potential disease epidemic, some huge earthquake, volcano, hurricane, or a tsunami. These events are general, and have been with us for thousands of years. So my answer was always pretty much the same: "No, I do not believe that the end of the world is near, but certainly "…now our salvation is nearer than when we believed" (Rom.13:11). But that all changed on "September 11, 2001." This to me was not a "general" catastrophic happening as has been witnessed time and again, but this was a very specific catastrophe unlike anything before it.
He also wrote that salvation for the human race would only come after a great slaughter of humanity, that if it weren't for God shortening those days no flesh would be left.
Is this 'great slaughter of humanity' something that could happen after Jesus returns? Or does this have to happen before? I assume this is a physical slaughter because of the use of the word 'flesh' is that accurate?
lareli:
In regards to unfulfilled prophecy and also Dave talking about the raging sea... does anyone have thoughts on Isaiah 17?
17 A prophecy against Damascus:
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
4 “In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.
5 It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
gathering the grain in their arms—
as when someone gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.
6 Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.
7 In that day people will look to their Maker
and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel.
8 They will not look to the altars,
the work of their hands,
and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles[a]
and the incense altars their fingers have made.
9 In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.
10 You have forgotten God your Savior;
you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants
and plant imported vines,
11 though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
in the day of disease and incurable pain.
12 Woe to the many nations that rage—
they rage like the raging sea!
Woe to the peoples who roar—
they roar like the roaring of great waters!
13 Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
like tumbleweed before a gale.
14 In the evening, sudden terror!
Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
the lot of those who plunder us.
As we know today Damascus is a city so has this prophecy not been fulfilled? Or perhaps there's a spiritual meaning and fulfillment that has passed?
Is it interesting that Damascus is today the focal point of tension between world nuclear super powers and rumors of war?
cheekie3:
largeli -
Interesting Scripture:
--- Quote from: largeli on November 22, 2016, 01:46:24 PM ---In regards to unfulfilled prophecy and also Dave talking about the raging sea... does anyone have thoughts on Isaiah 17?
17 A prophecy against Damascus:
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
4 “In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.
5 It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
gathering the grain in their arms—
as when someone gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.
6 Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.
7 In that day people will look to their Maker
and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel.
8 They will not look to the altars,
the work of their hands,
and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles[a]
and the incense altars their fingers have made.
9 In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.
10 You have forgotten God your Savior;
you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants
and plant imported vines,
11 though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
in the day of disease and incurable pain.
12 Woe to the many nations that rage—
they rage like the raging sea!
Woe to the peoples who roar—
they roar like the roaring of great waters!
13 Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
like tumbleweed before a gale.
14 In the evening, sudden terror!
Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
the lot of those who plunder us.
As we know today Damascus is a city so has this prophecy not been fulfilled? Or perhaps there's a spiritual meaning and fulfillment that has passed?
Is it interesting that Damascus is today the focal point of tension between world nuclear super powers and rumors of war?
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There is a lot of misinformation on what is truly going on in Syria today.
It may be that Syria is an integral part of His Plan against the wickedness of mankind - and I am sure that He has some of His Elect living on the land of Syria.
I wonder if mankind will take notice of His Word, if Damascus becomes no more a City.
Kind Regards.
George
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