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Can he come today?
Hellisfake:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on November 21, 2016, 08:06:31 PM ---He's been coming today for His few for 2000 years.
Act 17:31 ...he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness (He's not now judging the world) by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
That "day" could be today. If anybody thinks otherwise, I'm not going to argue.
--- End quote ---
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:9
There will be a day when we can see him coming, Physically! And that day is a special for day for the whole world, a day when the last trumpet shall sound. And it is a day that only happens once.
According to Ray, it can not happen tomorrow
"He also wrote that salvation for the human race would only come after a great slaughter of humanity, that if it weren't for God shortening those days no flesh would be left". quote
Dave in Tenn:
How many Trumpets will sound before the last one? What happens when the last one sounds?
lilitalienboi16:
Matthew 24:30-33
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
1 Thess 4:15-18
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Corinthians 15:51-53
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
I do believe our God can make His appearing at any time. With the prophecies regarding Syria, and other such, I do not know. I know there are the many who make great ends and speeches on these matters. I used to be taken in by them before the Lord opened my eyes and gave me ears. They no longer seem right to me now. The coming of Jesus will be as in the days of Noah. This I know most certainly as He said it. They will be doing as they all have done and then the flood comes upon them suddenly, as a thief in the night, but we will be watching and waiting for Him so when He does return, we will not be ashamed (God willing).
God bless,
Alex
Dave in Tenn:
(BBE) Because in those days there will be great sorrow, such as there has not been from the start of the world till now, or ever will be.
(CLV) for then shall be great affliction, such as has not occurred from the beginning of the world till now; neither under any circumstances may be occurring."
(Darby) for then shall there be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall be;
(DRB) For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be.
(KJV) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
(LEB) For at that time there will be great tribulation, such as has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will happen.
(LITV) For there will be great affliction, such as has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.
(Murdock) For there will then be great distress, such as hath not been from the commencement of the world, until now, and will not be.
(YLT) for there shall be then great tribulation, such as was not from the beginning of the world till now, no, nor may be.
Right or wrong, here's how I read that verse:
(BBE) Because in those days there will be great sorrow, such as there has not been from the start of the world till now, or ever will be (such as there has been from the start of the world till now).
Sorrow/affliction such as had not been from the beginning until Jesus spoke these words, and will not be such as has been from the beginning until Jesus spoke these words. In other words, the type of affliction/sorrow seen from the beginning to "now" will not be.
Is it a different type of affliction/sorrow that "will be"? Yes, I think so. And I go beyond this passage for "witness".
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (How long have they been going on?)
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Dennis Vogel:
Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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