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Fleeting moments of joy
Kat:
Hi Stego,
Depression seems to be very common.
I too have had my bouts with it, but I have not had any depression for awhile now :)
What do I attribute this lack of depression to, quite simply God.
But it's not that simple either, because I must stay constantly with Him,
either in the Word or prayer.
Now of course there are times when I go do things,
that are not directly connected to Him, but He's not far from my mind, and I get back to it asap.
This Truth has become for me a life consuming thing, and there is no room for depression.
It is when I was allowing the things of the world to overwhem me, that I was depressed.
To really put your faith and trust in Him completely, is the answer.
Mar 4:19 and the anxieties of this age, and the deceitfulness of the riches, and the desires concerning the other things, entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Mat 6:34 Don't worry about tomorrow. It will take care of itself. You have enough to worry about today.
Joh 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
This is my own personal experience, I say it to give others hope.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello everyone
For doubts.....Psalm 16:11.....in Your presence is fullness of joy..... :)
For anguish.....Matt 5:6....Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled.... :)
Arcturus
chuckusa:
Hi Sean
I agree with you...depression can seem like a bad thing. But the longer I live, the more I realize that depression comes from within. No external manipulationn can remove that if it is Gods will for us to have it in our lives. I truly believe that depression comes from unresolved sin. Certainly we can look at the biological standpoint and examine decreased norepinephrine and serotonin levels, or the psychological standpoint and examine all of the emotional illness definitions...but it all comes down to this. We were created the way we are, we were given these things to deal with, this is our burden to carry.
I'm not saying that I like being depressed, but it sure has motivated me at times. I also realize that if someones brain function is severly disrupted for whatever cause, they may need some type of help...but this is all for a purpose. I guess what I'm trying to say is that my depression is an integral part of my being, a cause for effect, and that I have given this too, to God.
Joe, you are SO RIGHT. It is a fierce, bloody war...with us being caught in the middle, or so it seems. I know this for a fact, as I've got the battle scars to prove it... :) I AM weary, but I expect any time to have to strap on my boots and my armor and go at it again...only upon my death will it stop.
Kat, Mark 4:19 is so awesome and true. I often think of verse 39...where Jesus speaks to the sea... " Peace, be still."
I know that all my times of quiet and peace are from God, that he knows I grow weary...that he is giving me rest before the next battle to come.
Love,Chuck
MG:
John 15
10If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. 11I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
Hebrews 12:2
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
James 1
2Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. 4Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
Romans 5
1Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. 3Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
2 Thessalonians 1
3We ought always to thank God for you, brothers, and rightly so, because your faith is growing more and more, and the love every one of you has for each other is increasing. 4Therefore, among God's churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring.
5All this is evidence that God's judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.
Hebrews 12:1
[ God Disciplines His Sons ] Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.
James 5
10Brothers, as an example of patience in the face of suffering, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. 11As you know, we consider blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job's perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.
stego:
I'll tell you one quote i really liked that Joe posted previously:
"Beloved, think it NOT STRANGE concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some STRANGE thing happened unto you" (I Pet. 4:12).
This is telling me I'm not crazy to feel the way i do, i like being not crazy lol.
Kat, i am happy that you are happy, and that the truth is making you happy! You must know more truth than me now, for if i knew and believed the truth that you do i would surely not be depressed. Maybe for me to put my faith in him completely IS the answer, the solution to my depression, but it is not easy for me now, for whatever reason.
Arcturus you said "For anguish.....Matt 5:6....Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled.... "
I can hardly wait, fill me up!
Chuck you said "But the longer I live, the more I realize that depression comes from within."
Absolutely i agree with this.
Then you say "No external manipulationn can remove that if it is Gods will for us to have it in our lives."
Surely if it is God's will for me to be depressed then i will be depressed! But although i know that it was God's will for me to be depressed yesterday, because i was depressed yesterday, what is his will for me today? If i assume that it is God's will for me to be depressed, how depressing is that!!?? Thinking that God wants me to be depressed actually causes me to be depressed!! It makes me view God as a mean God, one who just wants me to be sad all the time. Now, is this true?? This is the lie i have been having trouble not believing. But since God is good, the truth MUST BE that he does NOT want us to be depressed, just as he would not want for us any other bad thing. See how confusing this can be? God's will is always being done, and it is perfectly good, but how can you convince me that feeling like absolute crap was actually GOOD? Are you kidding me? That was bad! But i guess, it must have been for a good reason. Frustration, confusion, depression. To get happy i must believe with all my heart that God is good, and the problem has been that i reflect on the bad feelings i have experienced for so long and then said to myself "God caused that" which is true of course but, I guess i just need more faith in his goodness. i'm terrible for thinking these terrible things about God! How can i not think myself terrible for this? jeeeeeeeesh.
Chuck, you then say "I truly believe that depression comes from unresolved sin"
Ya, for me the sin is not believing God is good despite the fact that he has made me feel bad. It's hard! Sometimes i can see God as good more clearly, but then i find
myself having the negative thought i just described and i fall back down to depression. It's brutal! I hoping hanging out on the forum can help me increase my faith in God's goodness, that's why i'm here. Thanks for talking with me guys. Talk to yall later.
Sean
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