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sansmile:
Sandy,
These people don't even know there are sinning, because they are BLIND. God has deluded them.


Proverbs 16:1
The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.
Proverbs 16:4
The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
Proverbs 16:33
The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD.
Proverbs 20:24
Man's goings  are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?


Romans 8:20
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

They cannot see the truth, because God has blinded them to it.

Matthew 13:13
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Matthew 13:14
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Matthew 13:15
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Matthew 13:16
But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

We are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God, but by seeing that seeing they see not, can help us hate the sin and love the sinner, as God loves us all.

God Bless
Sandie

Marius:
MT 18:3 and said, `Verily I say to you, if ye may not be turned and become as the children, ye may not enter into the reign of the heavens;
MT 18:4 whoever then may humble himself as this child, he is the greater in the reign of the heavens.

Hi,

I suppose we all have this ability of when something happen in your life, either good or bad, it starts playing of in the mind and it can have an effect for years. I am not a person that says that certain things changed me life and so on, however, it seems as I am getting older and the testosterone lower, my reaction to many things is slower and more calculated. I use to react to quickly and with too much of a good or bad reaction to the situation.
I have learned that when I make a dicision to do something, because your are only human and does not have the all the info to make the decission, your action is not totally 100% appropriate.
What does a child do (I would say somebody below 7 years)? Say for instance he did something wrong. His dad now may tells him to "fix it or pick it up or go to his room". Whatever the parent now thinks is appropriate for this situation. Normally this kid accept  this  interference in his ways and will do what the parent wants. After maybe an hour he has totally forgotten and this and starts playing again.
Seems to be the reason why we can not remember things before 7 years of age.  As the child becomes older and his mind more developed, he would sometimes rebell against this or say, stamp his feet, run away to a friend etc. So we have lost the ability to forgive and forget. Maybe we think about it to much rather than accept the situation, learn the lesson, forgive and move on.
I am TRYING, (the best word to think), to base my reaction now on to rather be slow te react or not to let any situation play too much af a large influence on my thinking. It does cloud the mind I will admid, but limit the "air time" this experience enjoys.

That is why Jesus said that " if ye may not be turned and become as the children, ye may not enter into the reign of the heavens;"
This is maybe a simple solution to your problem, but I try most of the time, when it comes to situations that can have an effect, accept it and move on!

MARIUS

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Sandie

Your selection of Scriptures for me could also illistrate that we do not have free...uncaused will!

For me the Resurrection and Forgiveness are similar in as much Jesus said...I am the Resurrection and the Life John 11:25 so for me HE in like manner is the pardon/forgiveness for sins. I know we are told to forgive and our hurt feelings challege us to think we have not forgiven when we remember our hurts and sufferings with the temptation to be angry, bitter or to harbor unlon=ving thoughts. This is perhaps how we come to understand that WE can not forgive... it is not in US to forgive... it is in Jesus Christ ALONE....

Meanwhile our focus is to get rid of our feelings of anger, hurt, , pain etc....that lead us to doubting that we have not forgiven fully enough or completely enough....when in fact we can not forgive at all....we can do nothing! Jesus Himself said of Himself that He could do nothing without God so after we have got this figured out through enough painful struggle and experience, and that will only be when God decides we are ready....then we can go to our HIghpriest in our time of need in the realization that we fail, we are weak and liable to temptation and request Gods Mercy, Grace and unmerited favor....

Hebrews 4:15,16  For we do not have a High Priest Who is unable to understand and sympathize and have a shared feeling with OUR weaknesses and infirmities and liability to the assaults of temptation,but One Who has been tempted in every respect as we are, yet without sinning. 16 Let us then fearlessly and confidently and boldly dreaw near to the throne of grace (the throne of God's unmerited favor to us sinners) that we may receive Mercy for OUR failures and find Grace to help in good time for every need, approapriate help and well-timed help, coming just when we need it...

....for me  God alone causes the need and the timing as HE ALONE knows just when we need it...until then, our hurts and memories train us in patience, long-suffering, endurance and faith...

That is how I see so far anyway...through the perspective of Caused will not Free will....(ref Ray's MYTH OF FREE WILL study notes).....and here is where I could repeat your quotes Sandie! ;D

Arcturus :)

blissfulkitten:
This is how I'm learning to forgive.  I know that we will be judged by how we judge others.  Let it go.  It's not our burden to bear.  But KNOW that God will judge accordingly.  If the person realizes the way they treat others, and then repents, I'm good with that.  We may never know what those that have wronged us feel, what kind of life they've had, what problems they're coping with...  I remind myself how horrible they must feel about themselves.  Take pity.  This person didn't know you personally, so he sounds like he is either uncomfortable with himself to treat others so badly, or just has no conscience.  Don't take it personally.  Ask God to help you to forgive.

Deborah-Leigh:


Hi blissfulkitten. I love your Avatar name!  ;D

I have learned that the way I judge others is the way I judge my self! Hence the Truth that by the judgement we meter out to others, so too will that judgment be metered out to us!

But what about Paul's understanding of this very matter?  1Co 4:3  But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.

To be judged of you or of mans judgment is exactly that judgement that was leveled against Job by his friends of whom God was not pleased! :D

Same can be said with any advise we give others as was given to Job by his friends, who spoke not right things about God, as Job sat in the ashes of his pain, grief, aching and despair!

Doing unto others as you would have others do unto you, is so said, precisely because doing unto others is as doing unto you!

When and as you see the sick, angry, resentful others, or suffer their ignorant lashings of anger against you,  they are simply images of you as you were in the valley of the shadow of death before the beauty and glory of the resurrection to life and Truth Wisdom and understanding that shines within the vast empathy that says blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy!

Welcome to the Forum. There is a lot going on here! ;D...it's all good. ~ 8) ;D

Arc

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