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Sandyk:
This is a verse that EKnight had posted which is confusing me.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting [eonian] life, and some to shame [rebuke, reproach, disgrace] and everlasting [eonian] contempt [repulsion, aversion, abhorrence].
I thought God would be all and all but it sounds like in the second part of this verse that the sinners will have everlasting contempt? CONFUSED by this verse.
aqrinc:
--- Quote from: Mickey on April 20, 2009, 10:29:31 PM ---This is a verse that EKnight had posted which is confusing me.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting [eonian] life, and some to shame [rebuke, reproach, disgrace] and everlasting [eonian] contempt [repulsion, aversion, abhorrence].
I thought God would be all and all but it sounds like in the second part of this verse that the sinners will have everlasting contempt? CONFUSED by this verse.
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Hi Mickey,
RThe reason for the (bracketed) words is to show the proper translation in brackets.
ie: everlasting= (eonian)= for the age= temporary. Ray makes that distinction in all his papers and audios.
george. ;D
Sandyk:
--- Quote from: aqr on April 20, 2009, 10:57:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mickey on April 20, 2009, 10:29:31 PM ---This is a verse that EKnight had posted which is confusing me.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting [eonian] life, and some to shame [rebuke, reproach, disgrace] and everlasting [eonian] contempt [repulsion, aversion, abhorrence].
I thought God would be all and all but it sounds like in the second part of this verse that the sinners will have everlasting contempt? CONFUSED by this verse.
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Hi Mickey,
RThe reason for the (bracketed) words is to show the proper translation in brackets.
ie: everlasting= (eonian)= for the age= temporary. Ray makes that distinction in all his papers and audios.
george.
Hey George,
Thanks for commenting, I remember Ray speaking about (eonian). Sorry, I still don't get it.
and some to shame and everlasting (Eonian) contempt. KJV It doesn't sound like sinners are going to experience anything but contempt for eonians (not sure if eonians is suppose to be plural.) Some to everlasting (eonian) life. Is there an end to the eonians? Sorry very confusing
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aqrinc:
--- Quote from: Mickey on April 20, 2009, 11:17:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: aqr on April 20, 2009, 10:57:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mickey on April 20, 2009, 10:29:31 PM ---This is a verse that EKnight had posted which is confusing me.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting [eonian] life, and some to shame [rebuke, reproach, disgrace] and everlasting [eonian] contempt [repulsion, aversion, abhorrence].
I thought God would be all and all but it sounds like in the second part of this verse that the sinners will have everlasting contempt? CONFUSED by this verse.
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Hi Mickey,
RThe reason for the (bracketed) words is to show the proper translation in brackets.
ie: everlasting= (eonian)= for the age= temporary. Ray makes that distinction in all his papers and audios.
george.
Hey George,
Thanks for commenting, I remember Ray speaking about (eonian). Sorry, I still don't get it.
and some to shame and everlasting (Eonian) contempt. KJV It doesn't sound like sinners are going to experience anything but contempt for eonians (not sure if eonians is suppose to be plural.) Some to everlasting (eonian) life. Is there an end to the eonians? Sorry very confusing
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I see you are a new member to the forum, there is a whole lot more here to learn and really enjoy. Just settle in and read some more of Ray's papers. This information is going to seem confusing so try to read the basics first.
Here are a couple links:
Twelve Truths to Understanding His Word: http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm and
Is everlasting Scriptural: http://bible-truths.com/aeonion.htm
george.
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Sandyk:
Thanks George, I did read that article and several others when I first came across Ray's site about 4yrs ago, but obviously I need to read it again which I intend to do tonight. I guess you could say I went back to living in the flesh. Seems to me the only way to avoid living in the flesh is to stay focused on the bible. I am very eager but seriously lack patience.
Anyway thanks for all your help.
Mickey
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