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prodigal son
gmik:
Dwight, sometimes I get a little jealous of the fellowship that real live believers have, but ya know I love this forum, Ray, Mods, posters, lurkers who ever. I feel a connection here. Dwight, you have a home fellowship group right here!! Cyberspace is kinda like the spirit world now, anyway!!
Please don't think better of any of us-we are all human and seems like we mess up a lot!! :D
I have found nothing but love & acceptance here.
love ya,
gena
iris:
Thats the way I feel too gena.
If i feel down or if I'm having a really bad day,
I come to the forum and I get to feeling better,
because there is so much love here.
Iris
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Gena and Iris,
I come to the forum first thing every morning and that is the last thing I do before going to bed. I also do it several times during the day. It is the love and fellowship as well as the openess to discuss with eachother questions of the faith. I love it. I can be ME and not be condemned for it or have to walk on the proverbial egg shells. Yeah. ;D
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
rocky:
I find this in support of the elder son being the elect:
Here to the elder son, this is quoted:
Luk 15:31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
And here to the chosen, Jesus quotes this:
Jhn 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Jhn 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
I also find it interesting that everyone who believes in Him won't perish (be destroyed) but have life eternal
and the prodigal son did perish (be destroyed).
Still studying this.
God bless.
bobf:
--- Quote ---I also find it interesting that everyone who believes in Him won't perish (be destroyed) but have life eternal and the prodigal son did perish (be destroyed).
--- End quote ---
Everyone who believes in Christ won't perish, but that is different from saying that everyone who believes in Christ never perished.
Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Both underlined words are apollumi [destroyed, lost, perished]
The sheep that went astray WAS perished. And yet Jesus also says that it is not the Father's will that that sheep SHOULD perish. Likewise, the prodigal son DID perish and yet once he returned he WON'T perish.
The elder son is like the 99 sheep who "never went astray". Is there any such sheep?
Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Notice below it says Jesus is not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
Matthew 9:11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Is Jesus really saying that some are truly "whole" and "righteous"? No, he's talking about those who THINK they are whole & righteous, like the pharisees. Jesus came to call the sinners (prodigal sons) to repentance, not the righteous (remember the elder son claimed to be righteous).
As far as "all that is mine is thine" it may be similar to Israel according to the flesh being entrusted with the things of God.
Romaans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Romans 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.
That's how I see it anyway.
You might want to read Psalm 107. I think it gives the "pattern" for the "redeemed of the Lord".
God bless
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