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I'M LIVING WITH A WOMAN
longhorn:
Bradigan... To heck with the phony piece of paper signed by man, and save the money you would spend on a wedding (just to please a bunch of relatives you plobably dont like anyway) and take her on a 7 day cruise.
Longhorn
brothertoall:
Bradford,
Dear brother and friend. By your post I can see that you are very commited to this woman,your mate, and that you have children together. maybe some will look at this as though you are living in sin. Trust me brother I heard this from the world of christiandom many many times.
I know what i felt in my heart and God also knew what was in my heart and to me brother it does not matter what man thinks it is what God knows that really counts.
bobby
hillsbororiver:
1Ti 2:2 For kings and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
I believe we are admonished to keep the laws of the land as long as they are not in conflict with His Word. Should we make up our own rules or unabashedly flaunt time honored traditions, especially those that can be proven to promote a more solid family structure now that we are free to the Law of Moses?
Psa 78:63 The fire consumed their young men; and their maidens were not given to marriage.
We can all justify our actions or thoughts when it is convenient for us to do so but aren't we to follow Paul's lead and not cause others emotional strain so that we can be better witnesses for the Lord when the situation presents itself?
1Co 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1Co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
1Co 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,)
that I might gain them that are without law.
1Co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
Pray about this and follow the convictions of the Spirit, I am in no position to judge anyone about this as I have also been in a relationship outside the bounds of matrimony, if someone were to ask me what is better, healthier, more rock solid and more condusive to a better family atmosphere than I would have to tell them marriage, I have lived both and feel qualified to at least have an opinion based on reality not supposition.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Sorin on January 29, 2007, 11:39:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 29, 2007, 10:57:23 AM ---Craig you did not mention that she previously had other men befor the one she was living with. Was she committed to one man? NO!!! if she had married this ONE man would that make her committed. I take from that to mean no. Marriage does not mean that there is total commitment. Some married people have affairs do they not?
Ray has an opinion but I do not see where Ray is the authority on this subject. God is the one in control and I do not see where the srcripture speaks of ritual to make one married. it is the love ,committment and the body as being one that makes one married.
bobby
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Exactly, Bobby! If you believe a physical ritual is required to make one married than you might as well believe in physical baptisms and circumcision, etc....
The funny part is, Ray will quickly admit that a physical baptism only makes you wet, it does not baptize you, that christian baptism is a physical ritual which accomplishes nothing, but when it comes to marriage, yes, absolutely, it must be a physical ritual of the flesh otherwise it doesn't count, it's null and void.
Houston, we have a problem.
Sorin
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Do we reject Diplomas from High School or Universities using this logic?
How about Drivers Licenses?
Tax returns?
Do we fill out the forms to get a passport?
Do we fill out forms to adopt?
How do we get a checking account, a savings account?
So then legally committing ourselves to our wife or husband is less of a matter than the "rituals" and "pieces of paper" required to do all (and more) of the things listed above?
Is a family more likely to remain intact during the tough times inside or outside marriage, yes, examples can be given on both sides of the question but which is more likely?
In our heart of hearts we know the answer.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
brothertoall:
Not all have degrees, not all are required to have passports who do not leave the country unless you are going to Kentucky ;D,ect... These things are a neccesity in those circumstances but I know of no man made law that says you have to be married to live with someone you truly love.Now before some of you accuse me of appling this to homosexuals I am talking about between a man and a woman.
I knew a couple that lived together for 20 years and then finally got married. Were they not binding in the eyes of God or where they not for those 20 years that they were together?
bobby
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