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I'M LIVING WITH A WOMAN
Craig:
Well since this forum is here because of the teachings of Ray, I've added some links where he has given his opinion on the question.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2679.0.html
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2798.0.html
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2668.0.html
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1441.0.html
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,679.0.html
Some of these may have been posted earlier.
I'm not sure living with a person or being commited makes them married in God's eyes. When Jesus spoke to the woman at well in John 4, he obviously did not consider the man she was living with her husband.
I can see the points raised about a piece of government issued paper, but I can't see the word of God giving us a "free pass" on the matter either.
May God lead and guide you in this regard.
Blessings
Craig
brothertoall:
Sorin exactly!! hey I may be from the 60's and 70's but I have always believed thet the woman I wanted to spend my whole life with did not require a piece of paper or a ring.
bobby
brothertoall:
Craig you did not mention that she previously had other men befor the one she was living with. Was she committed to one man? NO!!! if she had married this ONE man would that make her committed. I take from that to mean no. Marriage does not mean that there is total commitment. Some married people have affairs do they not?
Ray has an opinion but I do not see where Ray is the authority on this subject. God is the one in control and I do not see where the srcripture speaks of ritual to make one married. it is the love ,committment and the body as being one that makes one married.
bobby
Craig:
--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 29, 2007, 10:57:23 AM ---Craig you did not mention that she previously had other men befor the one she was living with.
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No Bobby, I didn't mention it, but Jesus did He said "You have had five husbands, but" (BUT) "the one whom you now have had is not" (NOT) "your husband" Something made the five "husbands", husbands in Jesus' thinking and the living together wasn't the thing.
This is a decision between a person and his/her maker, I would just say to be sure we are standing on firm ground with God before we try and justify anything with our carnal reasoning, when we do, we can justify almost anything and that is a slippery slope.
Blessings
Craig
Sorin:
--- Quote from: brothertoall on January 29, 2007, 10:57:23 AM ---Craig you did not mention that she previously had other men befor the one she was living with. Was she committed to one man? NO!!! if she had married this ONE man would that make her committed. I take from that to mean no. Marriage does not mean that there is total commitment. Some married people have affairs do they not?
Ray has an opinion but I do not see where Ray is the authority on this subject. God is the one in control and I do not see where the srcripture speaks of ritual to make one married. it is the love ,committment and the body as being one that makes one married.
bobby
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Exactly, Bobby! If you believe a physical ritual is required to make one married than you might as well believe in physical baptisms and circumcision, etc....
The funny part is, Ray will quickly admit that a physical baptism only makes you wet, it does not baptize you, that christian baptism is a physical ritual which accomplishes nothing, but when it comes to marriage, yes, absolutely, it must be a physical ritual of the flesh otherwise it doesn't count, it's null and void.
Houston, we have a problem.
Sorin
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