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Sorin:

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--- Quote from: love_magnified ---http://thekingdomcome.com/confronting_universalism_complete_5_part_series?PHPSESSID=633dcdf8f807a073c0318e5c7654cfee

See how many strawmen you can find in this one. My jaw dropped at some of the logic.
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LM, so true, here is just one example (I cut and pasted this from "The Kingdom" article).

“For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.� – 1 Cor 15:22

The first question that must be asked is HOW… How did people become IN ADAM and how do people become IN CHRIST? It would seem obvious that ALL men are born in Adam via natural birth, but NOT all men are born in Christ.  Does this contradict the text?  Not in the least bit.  The text is NOT saying all who are in Adam will be in Christ, but rather it is contrasting that all that were in Adam were under death, and thus all who are in Christ (which is not everyone) will be made alive.


See how the author changes the order of the scripture to change it's meaning?

The scripture does NOT read "all in Christ" will be made alive.

It reads; IN Christ all will be made alive.

Tricky but transparent.

Again, like Jonathon Edwards, little scripture, much supposition.

Joe
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They who are of The Synagogue of Satan will do anything to pervert The Scripture. As your example clearly shows how decieving these people are.

Alot of people would not catch that and believe these Liars.

If " As in Adam all die " then " In Christ ( That Same, not another) " ALL "  Will be made Alive then how is it possible to believe that it's not the same " All
" but rather a Christian 98% of all? 98% all???

note: I got that " 98% of all " from a Christian detractor of Ray. :lol:

98% equals all? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: nightmare sasuke ---Someone wrote an article supposedly refuting Ray:

http://www.tektonics.org/qt/smithlr01.html

I plan on reading his article about Hell and writing a counter argument against it. How would you like that: "refuting those that try to refute but are not - Nightmare Sasuke"
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I didn't find one quote of scripture in that article.

Not worth readnig... NEXT!!!

Hehe :P

ertsky:
i'm getting a vision of all these guys wandering around after the second resurrection saying stuff like


ohhhhhh so that's what the bride of Christ means

ohhhhhhh so that's what UR is all about

ohhhhhhhh so that's what a great white throne judgement is

ohhhhhh so that's what the lake of fire means

ooouuuuuuchhhhhhh so that's what chastening grace means

ohhhhhhh we really didn't have a clue did we

LOL!

which is funny because that's what i'm like now

  :lol:

Gill:
Hahaha, Frank ...so true  :lol: .

rvhill:

--- Quote from: ertsky ---i'm getting a vision of all these guys wandering around after the second resurrection saying stuff like


ohhhhhh so that's what the bride of Christ means

ohhhhhhh so that's what UR is all about

ohhhhhhhh so that's what a great white throne judgement is

ohhhhhh so that's what the lake of fire means

ooouuuuuuchhhhhhh so that's what chastening grace means

ohhhhhhh we really didn't have a clue did we

LOL!

which is funny because that's what i'm like now

  :lol:
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something tell me I will still be doing these things :shock:  #-o  ](*,)  [-o<

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