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Help finding some kind of Peace married to an athiest
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Michelle,
I am continuing to pray for you. Please, please do not be eaten up with guilt, as that is where Satan wishes you to be. Only be yourself and pursue the Truth. I am glad that you are making the every effort to stay in the marriage.
As to your PM, I know in another post, the Mods posted something that if you get a PM that bothers you, you can PM the MODS about it and let them know. I hastily looked into my outbox and saw that it was not me. ;)
Please keep us updated as we are on this end praying for you.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
DWIGHT:
Michele,
You're right, that kind of talk does not build up but rather causes strife. All the verses you quoted are the ones to believe in and follow. Remember that we are all at the mercy of God when it comes to His salvation. Right now we are being saved, not that we have already attained or were perfect. We all, including are non-believing spouses will be saved, but only a few chosen will actually be in the feast of the kingdom.
There were ten virgins; five with oil and five without oil. When the Bridegroom came, the five without asked the five with to give them of their oil. But the five with oil (the Spirit) said buy or earn your own; and while they went to buy the Bridegroom came and took the five with oil and shut the door. When the five without oil said Lord, Lord, have we not taught in thy Name and been baptized in thy Name and gone to church and Sunday school and cooked at the church and handed out tracks...etc., then said the Lord, depart from me, I never knew you.
We are no better than our spouses; in that salvation is of the Lord. We are to love all manking and our neighbor with agape love. That is unconditional one way love, expecting nothing in return but our brothers and sisters we love with phileo love which is two way love; they love us and we love them. And we are to love our spouse in this same way...why?...because in God's eyes we are one flesh, we share our bodies our children our house our food our money....everything!
You cannot unspill the milk; what is done is done. We are all at the mercy of God so like Kat said, be content with what you have, learn how to be abased and how to abound but in everything give thanks to God. Michele, you will sanctify your husband because God says you will, and we believe what God says.
We will all pray for you that God will give you strength In Him.
Your brother in Christ,
Dwight
Nancy:
Hi there Michele,
I was thinking last night after i had written my reply to you.
Where does St. Paul say that it is a sin to marry an unbeliever? He may be giving us advice, i.e. don't go there otherwise you may have a hard time of it, but where does he specifically say, 'IT IS A SIN'? Maybe i'm being pedantic but it's just a thought.
Also the bible doesn't contradict itself, because you have to take into account the relative versus absolute viewpoint. This has helped my a lot to make sense of the bible.
For example, where Jesus says 'Come to me all you who are burdened'
St. Paul says that no-one can come to Christ unless God draws him first.
Also there are cases where people are called righteous, but St. Paul says, 'No one is righteous, not one'.
The pharisees were called children of the devil, but St. Paul says that 'In Him (God) we (all of us including vessels of dishonour) live and move and have our being'.
St. Paul tells us not to do certain things, but he knows that if we are meant to be a vessel of dishonor, then we will do them.
I don't imagine that i have any answers, as my husband says my epitaph will be 'I don't know anything anymore'. But i'm trying.
God bless
Nancy
Michele:
Thank you all very much. It's a blessing to be able to come here and be able to share the burden.
I have so many questions, so many doubts, and also hopes and prayers and then more questions.
One of my biggest worries is to be untruthful to myself and others as to where I really stand on things, the problem is sometimes I get so flustered and worn down even I don't know what's what! All I know is that I Want to be on God's side. Period. I am full up with sin I'm sure. I question things all the time. I ask God all the time IF he can hear me....and then I go on praying to him, all the time every day, even when I"m doing or thinking something bad, because I know that you can't hide your heart from God, he knows everyone inside and out. So even when I"m full of doubts ...I go straight on to ask God to forgive me for it! :)
So you see, I am definately not equipped to "preach" anything at anyone even if I wanted to, which I don't.
I think God must be doing something with me though because everywhere I look on a daily basis there are things all around me that make fun of God and because I am THE person in my household who is searching for God, doing my best to be a good example and search for God, that somehow I feel as if it's Me against all the athiests and anti-god everything in the world! I feel far too small and meek to bear that burden.
I'll tell you one thing. As awful as I have felt for a long while about this major unhappiness in my life it has caused me to search harder for God than ever before...so Perhaps that's it? I have no way of knowing for positive I don't guess. Being married to a non -believer does make you question everything. On the good side though, the fact that I am still seeking makes me know how much I want God. I've prayed time and again to God to please never leave me as sometimes I feel as if I'm drifting or crashing through life and things I cannot control and it frightens me terribly. Maybe That iis it! Maybe God wants me to just let him take over? I've never been able to do that in my life before because I didn't know wheather or not I believed it, I didn't believe really that God controls us all (like puppets I mean). I still dont think that, but maybe God wants me to know I can only choose for myself and not for others and to stop trying to "Save" everyone cause it'll take God to do that and all my job is to do the best I can and keep seeking Him??? Or am I just making this up as I go? :)
Like I said before, i was raised in a way to believe that to not believe in God was the most henious sin ever and they were going to pay for all eternity!
BUT after reading BT and relearning what the scriptures truly say and reasoning it out, I realize that non-believers haven't been dragged to God yet, so they have done nothing wrong! So how can it be that they are so put down and threatened by "traditional christians" who try to "help" them become "believers" by telling them that if they don't "choose" to "believe" in God/Jesus, that they will burn forever in hellfire!??? WEird.
ALSO, Can anyone explain to my WHY if it's so easy to find that HELL actually translates into GRAVE, WHY OH WHY is nearly all of "Christendom" preaching it to mean "torture in flames for all eternity"???? WHY?!!! I still need the books that'll help me SEE that for myself if anyone can direct me to them.
Is SLIM still on the forum? I believe he is also married to a non-belive,I'd like to hear from him as wellr.
And to all of the rest of you in my shoes, Nancy, Kat and anyone else, If it's alright, would you mind if I sent you a private message sometimes ? I could really use the fellowship.
Also do any of you in my position have children? If so, what have you/do you tell them? Are you worried about them or do you just let God have it?
I got a million questions.
Thank You all!
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Michelle,
Quesitons are okay.
Have you read the LOF series or any of the papers of Ray?
You may PM me if you want.
A lot of impression that I got reading your conclusioin of your post, is you trying frantically trying to control thins and do things. I am not getting a sense of rest. I know that it is hard to rest right now, but please fall into the Amrs of Jesus and let him carry you through. More prayer will always be a good thing. Read the poem Footprints becuase I think it does apply to your circumstances right now.
May God continue to bless You and Yours, and may he lead You down pathes of righteousness for His name's sake. May His will be done.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
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