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hebrewroots98:
...and then there is the couple that is in cahoots together to try and get as much freebies off of other people's sympathies as they can possibly get (without having to work for it or to repay it;) they want it all donated in the name of love and brotherly sacrifice; and yet, they never have enough! (She is a very educated leader in the community and he cannot hold a job, both are well known too. They do fundraisers for all kinds of reasons (to give to the poor, housefire victims, community food bank, they even sell things that they made up on their computer and have fundraisers to sell their item, while telling everyone that the proceeds go to the so and so agency...etc...), but we know for a fact that they are keeping things from these fundraisers for themselves, that were given for others who are less fortunate to have. I wouldn't have known this, but, I assisted in some of these fundraisers along wth this couple and heard their snide remarks; and once I saw their oldest child wearing a distinct article of clothing that I had donated to the fire victim family...obvioulsy it never arrived to the fire victims. She lied as to why he had the clothing on. :-\
Then, I was at their home and it was the most filthy and stinking place (cat feces all over the bedroom floor AND ON the nearly ceiling high (not exagerating) piles of clothing in that same parents bedroom.) They have 4 computers and no running water b/c not enough money to replace the old pipes!!! Yet four kids and the parents that smell unbearable always, but are too active in community events (head knowledge) to take care of their most basic of needs. There is no excuse here! He stays at home and plays Mr.Mom while she is pregnant with their # 4 child and she can't even take care of the 1 yr old whom has never walked yet and who stays seated in a baby walker with a tshirt and no socks on still!. (He cuaght RSV and was hospitalised b/c they refused to cover the baby up and dress him in socks during the winter as well as much clothing (diaper and a summertime onesie only) for the little guy! Neglected big time! But, their excuse...well he will just kick off the socks and clothing b/c he is too hot natured. Plus, there are churches whom bring boxes of xmas presents and whole cases of food for them to have a holiday with. Others give them good will items to help them out...Or she will recruit items for a poor family and she will keep the stuff herself and then have a big gargae sale and then keep the money for herself. They will sell donated items b/c she doesn't have gas money or food money to get by.
I say all of this to get you to see that there are extremes in people whom are needy. (There is no shame in being poor, but there is shame in being lazy and unclean.) So just be careful and be a fruit inspector before you give just b/c there is a need. Some peole are just plain old LAZY AND DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES; AND THEY DON;T CARE WHAT OTHERS THINK OF THEM INTHE LEAST. ;)
I know that God has to get their attention before they will come to their senses!
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Susan,
That is so sad that post that you posted. Today my precious one did something cute. I will post it in another thread.
Thanks for sharing.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
jennie:
As most of ya'll know we have what we call a "free market" at church for back to school and for the holidays. There is a lady who goes around to yard sales and stuff to buy things to re-sale. she has come to the free market we do. The people in our church either buy up stuff or give money to some ladies in our gathering who love to shop(not me, I hate it!) to buy things for us to have on hand. Some of us, like me, make things for the free market as well. It is kind of hard to swallow that this yard sale lady who has come to the free market gets things. That will be something she will have to answer for. One of the ladies in our church had a hissy fit over it though. Michael talked to her about it and asked the question of her about if she thought we as a group were doing this free market was pleasing to God. she said yes and he told her that if anyone took advantage that God would work it all out and that all we are called upon to do is what we believe God wants us to . As long as we do that we are okay and the other will be a matter between anyone taking advantage and God.
I agree with many who have spoken up.... if you KNOW someone is going to buy drugs or what have you, harmful stuff, we shouldn't deal in cash. Jennie
mrsnacks:
--- Quote from: jennie on February 26, 2007, 02:06:50 PM ---Sorry ya'll, I have a somewhat different point of view. I think if someone asks me for something I give it. Jesus said "if they ask for your cloak give them your shirt too" or something like that. Even so, if I do as God leads me too and someone is taking advantage of me that is betweeen them and God. I've done what God wanted me to do. I have been taken advantage of but I don't really think about it that much.Jennie
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But we can't take a verse in isolation like that. All scripture is connected to each other like a spiders web.
God commands us to use wisdom. If I came up to you and asked you for your savings or your car would you give it to me? If you isolate the verses you quoted you would have to. If we are taken advantage of many times it is our own fault. Just my 2 cents.
PKnowler:
You sound wise mrsnacks! Is it Mr Snacks or Mrs Nacks? LOL :D It's good to have you here! Welcome! :)
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