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If God alone has immortality.....
Snowfire:
As strange as it may seem, I would not even want immortality, if the mind of Christ was never in me. Be I an angel or otherwise.
LittleBear:
Snowfire,
I agree. To be in a neverending state of corruption would be intolerable.
Ursula
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Skydreamers
I have noticed in the scriptures that they mention life eonian and life without reference to eonian.
Although the same Greek word is used, Eonian is not mentioned in :
Luke 12 : 15....for a mans life
Luke 16 : 25...that thou in thy life time
John 1:4....in Him was Life and the Life was the light of men
John 5 : 24...is passed from death into THE life
John 5 : 26...the Father HAS life...He has given to the Son to have life in Himself
John 5 : 29...shall come forth unto the resurrection of life
John 5 : 40...you will not come to Me that ye may have life
Hon 11 :25...I am The Life
John 14: 16...I am The Life
In the Interlinear Scripture Anyalyzer John 5 : 24 Reads as follows : AMEN AMEN I-AM sayING to-YOU that THE-one THE saying/word OF-ME HEARING AND BELIEVING to-THE One-SENDing ME IS-HAVING LIFE eonian AND INTO JUDGing NOT IS-COMING but HAS-after-STEPPED OUT OF THE DEATH INTO THE LIFE.
There is nothing wrong with my computer. :D That is how it is written! I have noticed that there are two different ways that the word life is presented. Maybe this means nothing or maybe I am barking up the wrong tree but I have seen that the translation is using eonian selectively and not all the time! I do not know why this is.
The Scriptures present Eonian life in the following:
Mk 10 :30 ...to come to eonian life
Lk 10 : 25...to inherit eonian life
Lk 18 : 18...to inherit eonian life
Lk 18 : 30...who shall not recieve...eonian life
John 3 : 15 ..but have eonian life
John 4 : 14...I shall give him ...springing up into life eonian
John 4 : 36..gathering fruit into life eonian
John 5 : 39...are supposing in them life eonian to be having
John 3 : 15...that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have eonian life
Could this have some significance?
Does this show that The Life IS GOD the Source of eonian life? Is eonian life THAT life that is given as a gift through Christ? God has given THE Life to Christ Who has been able to declare that He is THE LIFE because LIFE is inherently in HIM.
Is INHERENT LIFE the in HERITANCE of the chosen? and eonian life for those who are saved? we will all be immortal and some will be eternal? I am starting to feel like Whinny the Poo....Think think think! I know I can not figure this out! I know. Only God can open up the answers but we do have to have some questions to be opened up in the first place don't you think...think think :D ;D
Somehow I do not see that this INHERENT LIFE reward has been offered to the spiritual realm but is exclusive to those who overcome the carnal and are changed from earthly to heavenly and are the Elect to whom this reward is promised. This does not erase the joy of receiving eonian life! which is perhaps the outpouring of INHERENT LIFE.
Perhaps it is only for the Elect few to have THE LIFE INHERANT with Christ in His image and likeness. Only Christ has been given inherent life and only through Him can we ever share what has been given to Him in full by the Father.
Immortal is perhaps eonian life and eternal is perhaps life inherent.
Perhaps after the LOF which we know is not for ever, there will remain those a) who are purified to recieve eonian life and those b) who enjoy inherent life in the image and likeness of Christ. Will it be then that Christ will return everything back to the Father?
I somehow do not think that the Angels will have INHERENT life in them and neither do I see that all humans will have INHERENT life in them. I do not see this as a permanent end in itself but just as part of the process. Jesus talks about those who are least in the Kingdom and I believe these least ones will be those who have been perfected through the LOF and who have been granted the Grace of receiving eonian life in the purest sense. We know that is not where the process stops.
I believe that eventually when Christ returns all back to God, the differences will be erased as God becomes all in all rather like our identities will dissolve into the boundless omnipresence and omnipotence and omniscience of God. Rather like the drop of the ocean loosing its membrane as it either enters from the earth through the spring meeting the ocean or the mist in the cloud that falls from the sky into the ocean will converge one day with the great source of all creation to become one with the great I AM.
The great radiance of the SON or SUN of God reflects this into some of us who shine this truth out in these temporal times. In the end all will be saved and all must be joined back to God. Any thoughts on this?
Skydreamers, this entire thought and searching to understand is a result of your thread! There are NO unimportant questions and your thread sure got me going :D! Maybe someone will see some answers to some of the questions that I have come upon!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
rrammfcitktturjsp:
To All,
I noticed no one touched my little comment. <laughes> Have a great day.
Good thread by the way.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: rrammfcitktturjsp012006 on March 17, 2007, 01:24:56 AM ---To All,
Seems to me the answers You are looking for You are trying to base them in a limited system, that being time. When one steps away and realizes that the time contiunium does not exist, then immortality ceases to have meaning as well does image. For it just simply is.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
--- End quote ---
Hello Anne,
I guess I will enter where angels/messengers fear to tread, although ultimately you may very well be right this temporal existence and time itself is an illusion it is in fact an undeniable reality in our present state.
Whether it is by measure of a clock or a demand of our physical bodies or environment, there is an order that has been established by God that we all are subject to.
Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Our Lord is using this mechanism for His purpose, a (Strong's) word search of "time" or "season" or "appointed" will show the many ways it is being used.
There are also secular writings that postulate that although time itself may very well be "temporal" or iillusionary it is presently the heartbeat of our physical universe.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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