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How does one arrive at new truths and revelations from God?
hillsbororiver:
Great post Josh!
I will add some more verses that should show that not all are given the opportunity to know of or about the One True God and His glorious plan for humanity while in this age.
Deu 7:6 For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deu 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes.
Mat 11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Mat 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:
I can certainly see God's Hand in His creation, the beauty and wonder of the earth and the heavens, but didn't the Egyptians, Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, Mayans, etc. also marvel at these wonders, learning the mechanisms by observing nature? Did they not use the the stars to navigate, the sun and moon to mark their days building incredible structures some of which todays engineers would have serious problems duplicating? They had gods, but not the One True Living God.
It is still the case in these times, breakthroughs in DNA knowledge and the compexities of even single cell life all points to a creator, does the world see this? Does this present world still have it's own gods it's own idols?
We will be blind until God deems the scales drop from our eyes and not before.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
DWIGHT:
Re: good and evil
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I posted this on another thread and thought this might help here too.
Maybe there's a difference between those that are called and those that are chosen. Many are called, including the whole world, right? Because, eventually, the whole world will be saved, albeit in a different age. Man, through the creation, can see the invisible things of God so that he is without excuse but like the scripture says,
"There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." Rom. 3:11
"An evil man seeketh only rebellion..."Pro. 17:11
Yet there hundreds of scriptures that talk about seeking God and finding Him if we seek Him with our whole heart. What I'm saying is that God may only be drawing (dragging) those that He wants to draw in this present age now, and later will draw all men to Himself. It is all God's doing one way or another.
You're right Joe, the creation helps us see many beautiful things that God has created, but there is no truth in man at all. Until we're begotten of the Spirit, we're dead, and there is no truth in a dead man.
Dwight
YellowStone:
Josh,
I have already stepped on toes today and I wish to do so no more.
But please consider my words:
I believe from the very center of my being, which is God and his Son, that the truth was always in me and always available to me.
Always, being for as long as I remember. Can you really say that I am a liar? Did I say, that I was free of sin?
Darren
YellowStone:
Dwight, you wrote something brother that made me smile ;)
You're right Joe, the creation helps us see many beautiful things that God has created, but there is no truth in man at all. Until we're begotten of the Spirit, we're dead, and there is no truth in a dead man.
I guess I do not see the SPIRIT barometer that you see. Because as far as I knew, the relationship between God and anyone, is between God and the said. Are you so certain that there is no truth in any man?
Like I said, I don't see the barometer that measure SPIRIT content. :)
All is of God, my brother
Darren
Kat:
Hi Darren,
--- Quote ---This is what I am trying to say, the truth is in us, it is just waiting to be released.
--- End quote ---
As I look at scripture it indicates that we 'come' to the truth, that it isn't already there.
1Tim 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
John 15:26 And when the Comforter has come, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He shall testify of Me.
And this seems to say some will never come to the truth in this life.
2Tim 3:7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
v. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith;
These scripture all say we receive the truth from God :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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