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ciy:
It is a great truth that is revealed to us. It is a part of the puzzle that plays a part in setting one free. The fact that God creates and causes evil is a truth that can take away the bindings of this world. It makes you realize why Paul said that he did not look back but pressed on forward for that mark set before him. No condemnation of the sins of the past keep pressing toward that mark as your mind is transformed over the long process into the mind of Christ.
Ray states it well in the following.
GOD CAUSES EVIL IN THE CITY
Let’s take a close look at that last Scripture in our list:
“…shall there be evil [Heb: ra—‘bad, evil’] in a city, and the Lord has not done it? (Amos 3:6)
There’s the question; what’s the answer? The answer from all Christendom is “Yes.” “Yes” there shall be all kinds of evil in a city, and the Lord has not done it. In fact, according to their teaching, the Lord does no evil in any city, ever. World famous teacher/preacher/theologian/author, Billy Graham said before a packed house in the National Cathedral, that GOD DOES NOT CREATE EVIL. But what saith the Scriptures (Amos 3:4-6):
“Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"
Answer: NO!
“Will a lion roar in the forest, when he has not prey?"
Answer: NO!
“Will a young lion cry out of his den, if he have taken nothing?"
Answer: NO!
“Can a bird fall in a snare upon the earth, where no gin [baited trap] is for him?"
Answer: NO!
“Shall one take up a snare [shall a snare spring up] from the earth, and have taken [caught] nothing at all?"
Answer: NO!
“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid?"
Answer: NO!
“Shall there be EVIL in a city and the LORD HAS NOT DONE IT?"
Answer: NO!
The Answer is “NO”!
I am now speaking to the mature only. This information is too heavy, too hard, too overwhelming for the carnal-minded person. Have you ever wondered just where it is that the proverbial “rubber meets the road?” Well, right here is where the rubber meets the road. If you don’t accept; if you cannot accept, if you will not accept the truth of all these double-witness Scriptures presented above, then you will never understand God’s plan of salvation for the human race.
Seven times in Amos 3 God asks us a question, and SEVEN TIMES THE ANSWER IS “NO”! NO, there shall not be EVIL in a city [any city—all cities] unless THE LORD HAS DONE IT! The truth of this Scripture (along with hundreds and hundreds like it) is so powerful, so absolutely earth-shattering, that the mere fact of me quoting it and suggesting that it is a true statement, will evoke hate mail from far and wide.
The world of Christendom will not tolerate, anyone quoting these Scriptures and then teaching that they are true and factual as to the character of our Great Creator God. They do not approve of God “creating” evil, nor do they approve of God “using” evil—even if God’s use of evil always eventuates in the GREATEST POSSIBLE ETERNAL GOOD.
It never dawns on their carnal minds for one moment that God might cause and use these unspeakable evils for a great and redeeming purpose beyond our wildest dreams or expectations. Unless we can see the plan, the purpose, the Goal of God for the human race, we will never see or be able to justify the hard, and painful, and difficult, and humanly impossible journey through evil to reach that marvelous eternal goal that God has purposed in Himself and our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ!
God does not reproduce Himself as Sons and Daughters of God, in His Own Image and Likeness, with His own Love, Power, and Eternal Glory, by using a cookie cutter and a sheet of Styrofoam. Do we think that the Awesome Creator of the universe is little more than “sugar and spice and everything nice?” Listen: God knows all about “evil”:
“And the Lord God said, behold, the man is become as one of Us, to know good and evil…” (Gen. 3:22).End of Ray's paper
God is awesome, and His plan is perfect. We can imagine what this whole plan is working towards.
CIY
sansmile:
AMEN CIY AMEN
Gods peace xx
Sandie
Robin:
As far as change goes I am just a witness to what God has done and will do. I watch him do it and can take no credit for it. There is no boasting.
I did not seek until he called me.
I was lost until he found me.
I did not know truth until he taught me.
I did not know the beast within me until he showed me through his word and the work of his spirit.
I could not repent until he led me to repentance.
I could not make the right choices until he changed the desire of my heart.
I held onto my carnal desires until he tore them away from me.
I rebelled until he broke me.
I was sick until he healed me.
I was weak and could not endure and he strengthened me and protected me.
I did not have faith until he gave it to me.
I will not have fruit until he produces it within me.
I am spiritually blind until he opens my eyes.
I am spiritually deaf until he opens my ears.
I can do nothing on my own.
God has taken the responsibility for my salvation by sending his only son to be a sin offering for all of us.
I've experienced great evil.
I've committed great sin.
I've believed great lies.
I've been spiritually sick and needed a physician.
I am guilty of breaking all the commandments and guilty of all the sin that was found in Adam. I am no better than any living person on this earth.
I see being accountable as telling God the truth about who I am and agreeing with him when he points it out to me. I am accountable. I am confessing and agreeing with him.
Romans 8:37-39
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Bradigans:
--- Quote from: M.G. on July 14, 2007, 05:17:57 PM ---As far as change goes I am just a witness to what God has done and will do. I watch him do it and can take no credit for it. There is no boasting.
I did not seek until he called me.
I was lost until he found me.
I did not know truth until he taught me.
I did not know the beast within me until he showed me through his word and the work of his spirit.
I could not repent until he led me to repentance.
I could not make the right choices until he changed the desire of my heart.
I held onto my carnal desires until he tore them away from me.
I rebelled until he broke me.
I was sick until he healed me.
I was weak and could not endure and he strengthened me and protected me.
I did not have faith until he gave it to me.
I will not have fruit until he produces it within me.
I am spiritually blind until he opens my eyes.
I am spiritually deaf until he opens my ears.
I can do nothing on my own.
God has taken the responsibility for my salvation by sending his only son to be a sin offering for all of us.
I've experienced great evil.
I've committed great sin.
I've believed great lies.
I've been spiritually sick and needed a physician.
I am guilty of breaking all the commandments and guilty of all the sin that was found in Adam. I am no better than any living person on this earth.
I see being accountable as telling God the truth about who I am and agreeing with him when he points it out to me. I am accountable. I am confessing and agreeing with him.
Romans 8:37-39
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
--- End quote ---
Amen! I had to say amen. I finally realize that I can't repent of my sins until God grants me the repentance, and i'm wretched.
YellowStone:
Great post MG :)
I too will never try to side step anything.
Love,
Darren
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