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What Do The Denominations Have Right?
Snowfire:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on August 04, 2007, 07:04:53 AM ---Great post(s) Bradigans! Thank you.
Hi Snowfire,
The Seventh Day Adventists also teach that the soul is not immortal and just like the WWCG they believe annihilation is the destiny of those poor souls not in the Lamb's Book of Life.
His Peace to you,
Joe
--- End quote ---
We know the truth that the soul is not immortal, so where did the Seventh Day Adventists get the truth that the soul is not immortal. I think what we are establishing here is that even Satin knows the scriptures and will decieve (the many) people by it.
hillsbororiver:
Hello Snowfire,
All the denominations (and non denominations) have bits of truth but always seem to mix in the man made stuff right along with them, I cannot see one undefiled "truth" from any of the established churches. Even the most basic tenet of Christianity "Jesus died for our sins" is polluted by eternal torment or even annihilation for some if not most.
Yes, the Adventists understand the soul is not immortal but they also see it as being extinguished if a person is not a member in good standing of the Adventists at their death. They believe they are the 144,000 in Revelation and that the majority of creation will be permanently destroyed.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
rj:
Hey Joe
Great thread....I can say from my 50 yrs in, and out of church i was taught some half truths, and a lot of out right lies, but i do want to say one thing about the church, without getting this thread off topic, they are following Gods plan to a tee, but through the scriptures, and Rays teachings i am beginning to see, that His plan for the called, and His plan for the called out ones ,are as different, as night, and day..hence..
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Ron
ez2u:
most of my time has been spent away from the denomiational churches. After Jon died I sat and listen to a really good music minstry for 2 years. What the preacher said I did not hear. earlier I was born again in a small in time fellowship that had a progressive Word of God with alot of Rays teaching. it dissolved. Out of the 8 groups I went to 5 dissolved. I found in churches, not small groups, there were groupies and like high school a varied of activities going on. Some people really loved God and wanted the true, others had problems, others wanted to get married, others wanted to be important some liked alot of social activities ect... It was like church was just about life. I had so much to do I could not stay and I need to understand more of the Word of God. I did meet some very wonderful people and I found out I could not could not make any mistakes there nor talk about my past nor walk in my gifts The Lord gave me. In church I had to shut up. sit down and follow their rules which to me wasn't going to happen Being from a household of mental illness I don't like crazy. peggy
hillsbororiver:
Hi Ron,
Thanks for your response, I agree that the churches do have a purpose and it is not my intention to bash the people who are still walking in the moonlight. Once the Lord begins to open our eyes to His real plan and purpose for His creation why would we continue to expose ourselves to the half truths and outright lies that are so predominate there?
The reason I started this thread and the "Neighborhood Watch" topic was that when the Lord calls us out of Babylon sharing His sacred secrets with us in regard to the infinite Love which is God, how could we sit silent as He is being portrayed in the pulpit as impotent, mean, cruel, unforgiving, a torturer of children and the elderly, and unable to create perfection even as He wills it. I could not bear hearing untruths about my family and friends week after week, how could one listen to these things about our Lord and Saviour?
Hello Peggy,
I do believe that you are right on target with your observations, this is what I remembered about the Catholic churches I attended as a youth, the SDA church for the couple years I was there and especially the Baptist church I attended at my wife's prompting a little over 2 years ago.
At that time she had attended this church (alone) for maybe 3 years, she was in the choir and a couple women's study groups and volunteered for many of the functions, she would drag me over there for some of the activities but I always couldn't wait to get away.
About a week or two before I stumbled onto Bible Truths I had finally given in to her requests to start attending with her, I would just sit and read my bible through the little skits, talent shows, announcements, and requests for $$$ to fund some pet project or other. I had noticed that in this approximate hour at the church about 6 to 8 minutes was actually devoted to His Word, maybe that was the pastor's way of tithing the church's time to God. ::)
I think it was my 4th or 5th visit to this church when the 2 compartments of hell business came up, I had been consuming Ray's papers like a man might consume water after spending a few dry days in the desert, anyway my groans could be heard 5 or 6 pews away as this heresy was being spoken. I was muttering "chapter and verse please?" My wife was elbowing me in the ribs as I continued to moan and ask questions out loud, I sure got an earful in the parking lot as my wife was REALLY UPSET with my behaviour, I told her, "then I imagine you won't mind the fact that I am never going back."
Needless to say she was not overly enthusiastic about Bible Truths and L. Ray Smith! ;)
My wife bemoaned the fact that it took her years to get me to attend with her and it took Bible Truths a week or two to get me back out. :D
Well, now my wife no longer attends, the hypocrisy, the cliques, the insatiable money demands (or offerings if you prefer) that were asked for in public to help shame the members into giving over and above the tithes. Although she reads her bible daily and we do discuss many things she still is not convinced about the Truths I have come to embrace. God has a plan for her and in His time it will be done.
Sorry for getting a bit long winded here....
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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