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ciy:
Here it is in the Message.  I am not pushing the Message bible but many times the translation is just so easy and seems to translate the an overall meaning.

It is sometimes hard to get the verse divisions so here is 1 Peter 2:4-10.

 4 -8Welcome to the living Stone, the source of life. The workmen took one look and threw it out; God set it in the place of honor. Present yourselves as building stones for the construction of a sanctuary vibrant with life, in which you'll serve as holy priests offering Christ-approved lives up to God. The Scriptures provide precedent:

   Look! I'm setting a stone in Zion,
      a cornerstone in the place of honor.
   Whoever trusts in this stone as a foundation
       will never have cause to regret it. To you who trust him, he's a Stone to be proud of, but to those who refuse to trust him,

   The stone the workmen threw out
       is now the chief foundation stone. For the untrusting it's
   .. . a stone to trip over,
       a boulder blocking the way. They trip and fall because they refuse to obey, just as predicted.

   9 -10But you are the ones chosen by God, chosen for the high calling of priestly work, chosen to be a holy people, God's instruments to do his work and speak out for him, to tell others of the night-and-day difference he made for you—from nothing to something, from rejected to accepted.

Pretty good ain't it.
CIY

bambam:
What a great thread.  It sure has got me thinking!  I am still in a church.  I don't know how to leave with my husband about to go into "full-time" ministry there as an associate pastor.  I could walk out today if it were not for my husband.  I admit I don't hate it there-the people are nice, and I even have some great friends, but I don't want to be there anymore!  I think being there all the time is messing with my emotions.  It's not messing with my mind, but I feel emotionally torn.  More and more I see the sillyness (is that a word? :-)  of church and all of it's "stuff".  I sit there week after week thinking over and over, "What is this all for??"  To them, and my husband, it is all the work of God. 

We bought a new building a month ago and have been working on it as a church to get it looking sharp and nice-and it's all the "work of God", you know.  I was thinking-even this is a lie, because God does not live in buildings made with hands!!  But we have to have a nice building, you know, to see more kids and people saved. 

In the meantime, no one is getting "saved".  Ironic, isn't it?

Sometimes, I am ashamed to be there.  There is alot of pride in this building and all the work going into it.  I help because of my husband.  I don't want to break his heart, yet.  I know I will if I quit church. 

I want to leave, but it's just not time. 

I used to think that the church has some things right-basic things like God's love, all of us sinners in need of a Saviour, God's sovereignty, etc., etc.  But there seems to always be a man-made doctrine to counteract each truth, like eternal torture, not all will be saved, man's free-will, etc., etc. 

Just a great thread to turn the wheels in my mind-thanks!

Blessings,
Beth     

DuluthGA:
Hello...  It is humbling, isn't it, Beth?  A LOT going on at one time... you probably feel alone and isolated... you specifically are in my prayers... as well as your family...  what a whirlwind!!  Where will you land? .... Most probably right where our Lord wants you to.  Don't fret too much... and don't sweat the small stuff... these are the only things for me to say right now.  Thanks for your post!  :)  And don't let it be the last one.

Big thanks CIY... yes it sounds good to me as ringing fairly true to scriptural lines for those verses...

What is missing is the "they were appointed" in three short words that is so precious from the CLNT.  But the overall construction made up for it.

For the record, nor I of all people would push any paraphrased version of Scripture... and my advise is to ALWAYS check the interlinears and the variety of direct translations...

But this sounded pretty good to my soul tonight! 
Nitey nite,  :)
Janice

seminole:
A couple of posts above mentioned "the stone that was thrown out " is to the untrusting a stone to stumble over. Also "they refused" to trust Him. Does that not imply the choice of accepting or refusing? It seems pretty cut and dried to me. I am bothered about the talk of all the different denominations too. People don't always fit in here anymore than they do at the church down the road. There is elements of truth anywhere you find a group of people. Here or at a church. It is dismaying to me to see the same thing happening here as anywhere else. There have been people pass through who were really talked down to. I have had it done myself but I don't care about that. A question I have is this: What is anyone doing to reach out to other people? It's great to study and we should do it but we should also be showing Jesus to others in word and action. It seems that love is missing.
Seminole

seminole:
I forgot to add my last thought; it has been said that the church is like a club and I ask is that not the same as this is? You have to think like everyone else, post like everyone else and follow the teachings without question.

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