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What is heretical?
ciy:
Thanks Joe
Amazingly I almost quoted Romans 14:23 earlier because it is such an anchor pin that is one of those verses that cuts through the gray issues and is relevant to all situations.
It seems to my observation that we tend to have "vain disputations and wrangling" about gray issues instead of being longsuffering with each other and reason together to find the end of a thing. Then we allow into our midst the obvious unclean thing. Like the verses that brought this to me in the first post that observing days (I believe this be the many pagan days that we observe) is an abomination to God just like homosexuality is an abomination to God, yet we overlook it because everyone does it. It I am reading these verses correctly observing Christmas is on the same level with consulting with a witch.
Again I am continuing to meditate on this and I appreciate all of your posts.
CIY
hillsbororiver:
You are welcome CIY,
This is a very timely and interesting topic to be sure. However I do not believe that witchcraft, sexual sins, and tolerence of "special days" are equal abominations.
When one consults a seer, a witch or one who openly calls on familiar spirits they are seeking hidden knowledge outside of the sacred secrets revealed by God thus leaving themselves open to many things evil.
Sexual sins feed the carnal beast which is at enmity with God, we cannot grow in Him if we are at enmity.
Being tolerant of the people who keep a "holy" day that we ourselves know to be false can be to His ultimate glory, do we shout heretic! as Grandpa puts up a christmas tree? Do we accuse Mom, a family member, friend or aquaintance of being a child of Satan for giving us a present or card?
This topic of christmas has fueled the passions here before and although I do not keep this day as special I do not become a thorn in the side of those that do, I speak about it for what it is, a pagan holiday incorporated into christianity and leave it at that, my friends and family know I am wired differently (to say the least).
We know that Paul states he became all things to all men (1Cor 9:22) so he might save some. We can have patience and be of good cheer teaching by example to everyone we come into contact with, making a huge issue to the point of making those around us uncomfortable does not serve Christ, let them ask us about His Word, not becoming a wearisome tinkling cymbal (1Cor 13:1) who comes off as stiff and self righteous.
I sure hope we do not descend into a christmas debate as this is a very good thread and a topic worthy of exploration.
We can be in the world and still not be of it.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
ciy:
I must leave my computer for the day. Sorry I cannot stay, but I understand what you are saying Joe and that I think is the question. I do not mean to descend into a discussion of any particular day other than to ask is this the yeast of the Pharisees? It is easy to rebuke for some doctrine that is not accepted in the world, but the harder things to leave we permit.
I am sorry to leave for the day. I really am seeing this as important to one's growth in Christ and the truths. I realize Paul was everything to all, but at the same time we are to not honor grandpa and grandma above the commandments of Christ and the scriptures that say "friendship with the world is enmity to God"
Please do not take any of this as just vain disputations it is in my heart.
I must go now.
CIY
D Student:
Good topic. ;D Now is the perfect time for this...
D Student
rk12201960:
Hi all,
My thoughts are, have you ever try pushing a chain?
Unless Gods pulls the chain (person) the task is not possible!
We don't want to put ourselves in front of God and Jesus.
I think He knows what he is doing.
We are here for the boat ride, and don't wake Jesus.
Randy
;D 8) ;D
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