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rocky:
Tit 3:9  But hold yourself aloof from foolish controversies and pedigrees and discussions and wrangling about the Law, for they are useless and vain.

Gal 3:2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you get the spirit by works of law or by hearing of faith?

1Jo 5:4 for all that is begotten of God is conquering the world. And this is the conquest that conquers the world: our faith.

ciy:
Thanks for those verses. 
Especially Galatians 3:2 that is a great verse.  Amazing how God's "line upon line" is the "Sum of the (whole) Word"
CIY

Kat:

Hi ciy,

Yes what you say does seem to be the case too often.  It is easy to separate ourselves from the big and obvious heretical teachings.  But there seems to be a lot of gray areas, when does tolerance for immature believers become yeast in our midst?  It is a serious obligation to protect this forum from this and I am thankful that we have mods that have discernment and experience in determining this. 
In our private lives gray areas can be tricky.  Is our being present at certain family functions, considered condoning it?  I guess it depends on how you actually deal with it. 
I have thought about what society traditions and customs, will Christ totally do away with in His kingdom.  Are we not to be preparing now to judge the world, with Christ?  If so we should be learning now, to live in every way, by what will be judged righteousness in the kingdom.

Isa 26:9  My soul yearns for Thee in the night, my spirit within me earnestly seeks Thee. For when Thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.

mercy, peace,a dnlove
Kat

ciy:
Kat

You make good points.  As I think on this, I guess it has to do with the intent of the heart.  Are we doing it to glory God or are we doing it so as to keep peace with the world? 

It is, like Ray said, the hardest thing we will ever do to remain faithful to God.  It just seems we tend to all (me included) allow the physical things that seem all right even when God's word speaks directly against it.  It is like giving up baptisms, communion, public prayers, holy days, etc is hard for us to do because it is so easy to go along and after all "everybody does it". 

Like the bible says "It is a hard saying."  It brings into realization that the few chosen really are a very few like Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc you must separate yourself from the ways of the world, but it is a mystery.

I appreciate all of your posts.  It is something I will continue to meditate on.

CIY

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: Arcturus on August 25, 2007, 11:51:02 AM ---
It would be different if someone wants to know the truth, but very few do.

Arcturus :)

--- End quote ---

Arcturus brings up some very valid points but I think the one above is the key. But how do we really know the motivation behind some of the questions that are asked or the opinions stated? As Kat said we need to have discernment, not respect of men or special considerations in regard to whether or not we are personally drawn to some people more than others.
 
The following verses have been quoted more than a few times when questions/statements seem to veer into what we call gray areas, the natural man needs to give way to His Spirit constantly seeking not the things that appear well and good to us but seeking His will in all our actions and words.

1Ki 3:9  Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?
 
1Ki 3:10  And the speech pleased the Lord, that Solomon had asked this thing.
 
Remember Paul stated that "whatsoever is not of faith is sin." (Romans 14:23) This is quite a humbling thought to meditate on and part of our need to align our will to His will, not becoming blinded or thrown off course as to the ultimate purpose for our existence.

1Th 5:14  Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
 
1Th 5:15  See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

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