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Something Important I Believe We All Need To Discuss...
love_magnified:
Anything opposed to God.
orion77:
Evil is subtle and deceptive. Speaks truth mixed with lies. And when we are ignorant as to who the beast is, we are being fed daily on evil. When we think this life we have is OURS and that God can or will not mess with freewill, we put this thing called SELF in the seat or throne of Gods Holy Spirit. I think that is a great evil in the eyes of God. There are many things to overcome in this life, the beast (self), is foremost, because we can not see clearly the spiritual things of God, while we sit in His throne.
God will and must bring us to the utmost point of futility before we can actually see these truths. This is a walk that only few in each generation, by the will of God, will partake of. But in the end, all will, each in his own time.
The whole book of Job answers this question. We have all eaten of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Yet, we are not as God, we are made weak and sinners. The devil devours our flesh, while we think the control is ours. We can do nothing in ourselves and noone, no not one does good, while we sit in the throne of God. Until God brings us to the point of Job, and repent in dust and ashes, then we go beyond the hearing of God and move into the seeing of God. Big, big difference. Gods ways are tough, but just and righteous into creating men and women into His image.
For me, I know the me, myself and I cannot please God. I've tried and tried and failed and failed miserably. Until I let Him take over His rightful throne, I am nothing...I thank God to the end of time for bringing me through the mire and the fires, it has brought about the greatest changes.
Sorry, you all, I get going like an energizer bunny, can't stop. :lol: 8)
God bless,
Gary
rvhill:
if Good is agape( selflss Love), then Evil is ampathy
Gill:
A few thoughts ...
I can well understand peoples' objections to parts of the old testament. Yes i can accept that they are carnal objections. Some of the commands given to the Israelites by God (to my carnal mind) seem at best offensive and at worst downright cruel.
At times, when i really think about it, it even seems 'lame' to me that it was all necessary just for the admonition of those who would be under the new covenant. How to explain that it was fine and dandy and all part of God's plan for the Israelites to invade other nations. How to justify the violence. Don't we condemn it today? Holy wars ~ religions have a lot to answer for ...but how to really understand why they were necessary (regarding the Israelites) for the progression of God's plan.
I know that someone may well respond and tell me that it's a shadow or 'type' of how we're supposed to regard and treat sins/idols in our own lives but ...wow. Heh, please believe me when i say that this isn't as ranty as it is probably coming across ~ just something i have a hard time grasping. God willing, i'll understand it one day but maybe not in this age.
I certainly wouldn't know where to start to help explain and maybe even justify ( :oops: ) these things to someone else. And it does get raised in conversations with people. Hell and the old testament are two big gripes to those who are looking to be convinced that God is love. One is fully debunked for me ...the latter ~ for now i accept that it's my carnal mind that's the problem. Which i will repent of one way or another.
Debra, thanks for sharing your thoughts. The idea that some of these actions may have been done from a mercifull point of view gives me a bit more in my arsenal against becoming all bitter and twisted over it ](*,) .
Harryfeat:
--- Quote from: Origen II ---
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I still ask the question, what is your definition of evil in its most basic form?
feat
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Destruction.
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I am not sure I understand what you mean by evil=destruction. Destruction of what?
Does that mean that in your theory of dual concepts that good=construction?
I kind of had this notion that the basis of evil might in essence be deceit.
I sometimes get all caught up in details like... can a human be evil if God created evil as something separate from humans?
Anyhow, please help me with the destruction concept.
feat
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