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M_Oliver:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on September 15, 2007, 05:51:58 PM ---"...but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live" (Rom. 8:13).
"This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh" (Gal. 5:16).
go figure
Rodger
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Can anyone provide two Scriptures that prove someone accomplished this?
YellowStone:
Hi M,
There has only ever been one man who achieved what Paul writes about, and that man is Jesus Christ. Even Paul fell woefull short.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that [it is] good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Yet, even with this said. I believe Paul as well as many others have been able to walk in the Spirit and not fullfill the lusts of the flesh. Of course I might be reading this wrong, but I am thinking it means not seeing something and wishing it was yours. Not sure if anyone could stop being appreciative of a nice new car, home, etc. But would not the lusts of flesh being fulfilled involve stealing the item or something simililar, like destroying the item; for if one could not have it, neither would anyone else. So if my understanding is correct, I would think one has a good chance of fulfilling Gal 5:16.
Just my opinion, if any feel I am wrong, please no flaming.
Love in Christ,
Darren
M_Oliver:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on September 15, 2007, 08:03:01 PM ---Hmmmmmm How about reading the Life of Jesus the Chrsit who set the Pattern for us all to follow....simple enough even for babes to understand.
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Yes, but WHO has accomplished it?
Mark
PS: Besides Christ of course...
M_Oliver:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on September 15, 2007, 08:03:01 PM ---Hmmmmmm How about reading the Life of Jesus the Chrsit who set the Pattern for us all to follow....simple enough even for babes to understand.
Mark 10:18"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
Gen 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
((there were actually 2 TREES in the middle of the garden: the tree of God and Evil and the Tree of Life. And then there were the other trees))
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
((now this is an interesting parable, although ODD that Eve sees the TREE (was) GOOD. Eve had not yet eaten the FRUIT. but already KNOWS GOOD. SIN was indeed commited before even one bite had taken place.))
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
food for thought
Rodger
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It is your understanding that to "know good" is a sin?
Mark
dawnnnny:
I would like to ask 56,242 questions to everyone on this forum. ;D ;D ;D
I know that's just impatience. The funny thing is, getting an answer from a forum member isn't going to put it into my spirit/heart. That comes from God in His time. So I fully understand wanting to ask the questions. Its taken everything for me NOT to do it. ;D ;D ;D but I know getting to those conclusions "by way of the Spirit" is the best way...the only way!
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