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lilitalienboi16:
Is it not done out of love though, to tell them that what they preach is a LIE?
I guess its like that old saying; "Friends don't let friends drink and drive."
It might sound MEAN and RUDE to tell someone they CAN'T and SHOULDN'T drive when there drunk, but it certainly is DONE OUT OF LOVE.
Is not what i did, by telling them the truth, the same thing? I Certainly did out of love, and with passion and zeal, but like i said it was done out of love.
I guess you guys just don't know the whole story so its hard for you to give me a good assesement, i guess i just need scripture.
Who is our brother and sister in Christ? Are there any scriptures that make it plain and obviouse?
Is it wrong to tell people the obviouse truth? Is that not LOVEING?
Proverbs says; "A friendly rebuke is better then secret love."
I assure you, i was being honost, and it was a FRIENDLY REBUKE, but sometimes the TRUTH HURTS. So was i WRONG still in TELLING THE TRUTH?
I just don't know sometimes, some of you guys are makeing me think, telling them the straight up truth was wrong.
God bless,
Alex
sonofone:
If the church is the mother,that is the structured organized church many, if not most of us got saved, if you will under.Doesn't that make her children our brothers. Even Jesus was birthed by a natural sinful mother. Most of us were birthed through the church. Mom will always be loved and respected and her children will always be family,even the ones that drink to much and embarrass us, they are Gods children and our brothers. If we are who we suppose we are ,we are to be the mature older brother that does not not feed steak to babies but rather milk,or what there bodies can tolerate. God is responsible for watching over his seed,not us.He is the daddy. God knows I watch over my seed,and I don't need another man to do my job for me.Now God can use anyone of us to help our brothers and if it is God that leads you to help, I believe you will know, he will give you a peace that requires no human feedback to be sure of.
Gregor:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on October 05, 2007, 05:22:04 PM ---Is it not done out of love though, to tell them that what they preach is a LIE?
I guess its like that old saying; "Friends don't let friends drink and drive."
It might sound MEAN and RUDE to tell someone they CAN'T and SHOULDN'T drive when there drunk, but it certainly is DONE OUT OF LOVE.
Is not what i did, by telling them the truth, the same thing? I Certainly did out of love, and with passion and zeal, but like i said it was done out of love.
I guess you guys just don't know the whole story so its hard for you to give me a good assesement, i guess i just need scripture.
Who is our brother and sister in Christ? Are there any scriptures that make it plain and obviouse?
Is it wrong to tell people the obviouse truth? Is that not LOVEING?
Proverbs says; "A friendly rebuke is better then secret love."
I assure you, i was being honost, and it was a FRIENDLY REBUKE, but sometimes the TRUTH HURTS. So was i WRONG still in TELLING THE TRUTH?
I just don't know sometimes, some of you guys are makeing me think, telling them the straight up truth was wrong.
God bless,
Alex
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You're correct that none of us were there. And even if we were, only you and God know the true motives of your heart. It sounds like you do know in your own conscience, but are seeking reassurance from men. Don't condemn yourself for what you believe then (James 1:5-8/Rom 14:22,23). I agree that it is a better way to speak the truth and face rejection from men. But, take responsibility for your self, not for how those respond to the truth. That's on them. The message may be 100% true, but if you do not present it in a manner that is perceived by the audience to be friendly, loving, as opposed to argumentive, they will not be willing to receive it. Don't try to force feed meat to the baby. Even milk needs to be put in a bottle with a nipple so that it will be received. (Hope you know what I'm trying to say.) ;D
G.
ciy:
Moises,
I agree with what you said
"and like others said i also think it is all about motivations and our real intentions on why we do whatever we do."
It is not about the way you act or if you make yourself talk nicely. It is what is the intention of your heart?
People say all of the time act like Jesus and then people will see Jesus in you. Do not be speaking it, but act it. Well I have seen many religious people act good all of their life, but the love of God was not in them. You must act and speak whatever is in your heart. If you act like Jesus, then He is not in you. Keep worshipping, praying, meditating on the word until you are acting out of your heart and it is Jesus.
Christ in you is the hope of glory. We must become Jesus through Christ.
CIY
Kat:
Hi Alex,
I see you are still struggling with this issue. I found a couple of emails, to see what Ray says on such matters. Hope this will be of help :)
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3703.0.html -----
Ray,
> I saw this posting on the internet and I was wondering what you thought
> of it: (Article refuting universal salvation)
> Bill
Dear Bill:
If you don't understand the mind of a Christian you will never understand why people like me do not usually debate them. Let's say that they bring up a point (about anything) and you have Scripture that speaks directly to this point. Can you quote that Scripture to a Christian to make your point? NO, no you can't. Why is that? Because the second you quote it (according to them) you TOOK IT OUT OF CONTEXT. And to them, no Scripture is true "out of context." "God is love" (I John 4:8), but ONLY IN THE CONTEXT OF I John 4:8. You cannot just quote a Scripture and believe that it is a statement of fact or statement of eternal truth. They won't hear of it. But don't they quote Scripture to support their views. Yes, of course they do, but they use them IN CONTEXT. Who determines whether their use is in context and your use is not in context? Why THEY DO, of course, and that is because they understand hermeneutics and you don't. See the difference? I don't either, but that's just the way it is. If you can corner a snake in a briar patch, then you can debate a Christian with the Scriptures.
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2633.0.html -------
We see that Jesus several times calls the pharisees hypocrites, blind fools, blind guides...etc. And in Matthew 5:21-23. Jesus commands us not to otherwise will be in danger of the fire of hell. Isn't this contradicting to His teachings?.
I know you receive tons of e-mails everyday, but I would appreciate it if you give me couple minutes of your time and answer my question.
May God Bless You,
Tony
Dear Tony:
We must learn to read more carefully. Every word is important. Here is what Jesus said: "But I say unto That whosoever is angry with HIS BROTHER....and whosoever shall say to HIS BROTHER, Raca...." (Matt. 5:22).
These lying, two-faced, blaspheming hypocrites were not Jesus' "brothers." Here are those who are Christ's "BROTHERS": "For whosoever shall DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven, the same IS MY BROTHER...." (Matt. 12:50). Contrarywise, "whosoever shall NOT do the will of My father is NOT my brother..." This is because "Ye [same scribes and Pharisees] are of YOUR FATHER [not Christ's FAther, but YOUR father] THE DEVIL" (John 8:44).
God be with you,
Ray
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