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sonofone:
I had two questions for your consideration.Does it seem to you as it does for me that the four Gospels and the book of Acts would be better stated as transitional Gospels as opposed to New Testament Gospels.I say this because Jesus came to establish,and fulfill the Old Covenant while pointing to and in his death establishing the New Testament.The book of Acts it would seem begins the New Testament church however there was obviously a transition period for the church and the ushering in of the dispensation of Grace. Which it would seem did not come into effect all at one time.Which leads me two my second question.Did the dispensation of Grace cause God to deal with man in a different way? By this I mean did the fact that God was now allowing man time to grow in the faith thereby withholding immediate judgement also cause God to stop the flow or onslaught of signs and wonders including miracles.Tongues for instance was a sign to the unbeliever because men were able to speak with other identifiable languages which were not there own,yet that sign is now gone and appears left shortly after the Church was established.The last known record of God executing instant judgement was in the book of Acts when he killed Ananias and Sapphira's up until this time it was common for God to strike you down instantly,or command or allow men to kill you instantly if you sinned.This is not happening now not with God or man.So Is the dispensation of grace the cause for the two way silence of heaven?That is to say his silence in judgement,and miracles.

Gregor:
Greetings,
It seems that words are very ambiguous and do cause confusion. I suppose it depends on how you want to look at it. Certainly, when we look at things in the time-space continuum from a human perspective, there are transitional periods. But when we look at things through God's eyes: Rom.4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were and 2Pet.3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

I would suggest that it is man's understanding that is slow on receiving the dispensation of Grace, and that it is already complete - we just need to wake up, catch up with God, if you know what I mean. I do not believe that God has stopped the flow of signs and wonders, but more likely that we, by our unbelief and ignorance (mostly due to the false teachings/doctrines of man) and personal corruption limit the flow. I am convinced that it is man who is changing, and not for the better, and that God remains the same. Perhaps God does still execute swift and instant judgement, only no one is writing it down for our admonition anymore. People drop dead all over the world, and write it off as a medical heart attack, whatever, when it could be the hand of God's judgement. Man continues to try and disprove the existence of God, and place himself in that position as God. Some healings still occur today, only they are written off as coincidence or not medically documented or not given the priority in the news. When we see things on tv, we question, we discredit, etc. and become like doubting Thomas who had to personally witness with his own eyes before he would believe. Blessed are those who live by faith, by the word of God, and not by sight. I don't personally experience this two way silence from Heaven you refer to. I feel like God is talking to me relentlessly, (I couldn't get away from Him no matter how hard I tried) and shows me personally all kinds of signs and wonders throughout my life. I pray that God will give you ears to hear and eyes to see. (I know he's already giving you that, but I just mean more of it ;) ) I hope this helps shed some light on your questions.
Your brother in Christ,
G.

Word Student:
Often in our search for truth in understanding the past indoctrination we've received from Christendom raises many obstacles.

Our Father and the Lamb are very patient with us though and will provide as much insight as we are able to comprehend when we are able to receive it.  These "bursts" of insight may come in surprising and unexpected ways.

Your discussion raises good questions and will ultimately lead to your finding the understanding you seek.

Persist in your asking of questions and constantly ask our Father to provide wisdom and understanding through all whom He chooses.  Sometimes it is very hard to "let go" of what we have believed to be truth when we find contradictory true light in the word.

The truth of the Gospel and the Kingdom to come is simple and uncomplicated.  It has been made very complex and incomprehensible by the Adversary and his agents.

Our "blindness" is only temporary and will dissolve away, as Saul's did, with exposure to the light of the Word.



 

sonofone:
Hey, word student,welcome to the board and thanks for your post.Thanks to you to G,I appreciate your feedback,and will consider it in light of what I have suggested.Thanks again to both of you for your response.

sonofone:
This post really hasn't gotten off the ground so far,does it appear to be irrelevant to what God is doing in our lives, or are we just of no opinion on this topic?I think it would help to get clarification on this issue for in my opinion it would have serious ramifications on how we view scriptures. For instance G you mentioned that God is not silent in your life and you contend that miracles do still happen only they go undocumented. I believe you are also of the opinion that God still passes instant judgement suggesting that not every death is naturally caused. I say that there is room for what you say without it dismissing what I am suggesting. I don't think that any reasonable person can disagree that Miracles,signs and wonders are not in existence to the extent that they were after the church got it's start so to speak,further it is impossible for any reasonable person to say that the four gospels did not show Jesus upholding the Old Testament,so why should it be considered a New Testament writing? The reason why I think we should make this distinction is because people will quote the words of Jesus as scriptural authority for the new covenant when in certain cases they should only be applied to the old covenant.Just look at how Jesus addressed the Syrophinecian woman. It was her faith and persistent faith at that that granted her what she was asking for. Jesus said he did not come but for the lost sheep of Israel,it was not right to give the children's bread to the dogs, These are obviously Old covenant or transitional doctrine teachings.If we can see this I think we can move away from viewing this bible in a static view and see it as a dynamic gospel or evolving or changing maturing gospel.Even Ray shows some of these distinctions as in the Apostles doing baptisms early in there ministry but moving away from it later in there ministry. I believe you guys are leaving a lot of meat on  this bone by ignoring this post.That is of  course your choice however.

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