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hillsbororiver:
This is a portion from LOF Part 14

(The Beast Within) http://bible-truths.com/lake14.html

"Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness, and the work of faith with power: THAT the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be GLORIFIED IN YOU [IN YOU], and YE IN HIM, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ" (II Thes. 1:11-12)!!

How then does our Apostle Paul tell us this MUST be accomplished? What must happen? What must we do? Or rather what must Jesus do IN US? Here is the Scriptural answer:

"Now we beseech YOU, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him.

That ye be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that THE DAY OF CHRIST [The Day of the Lord] is at hand [FOR YOU...].

Let no man deceive YOU by any means: for that day shall not come [TO YOU…] except there come a FALLING AWAY FIRST [BY YOU…], and the man of sin be revealed the son of perdition [IN YOU…TO YOU…]; Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped [IN YOU…]; so that he as God sits in the temple of God [‘which temple YE ARE’ II Cor. 6:16] showing himself that HE IS [YOU ARE / I AM] a god

Remember ye not, that when I was yet with YOU, I told YOU these things?

And now ye know what withholds [is restraining, is detaining—‘the falling away FIRST’] that he [‘the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition’—YOU…] might be revealed in his time [in YOU and TO YOU—individually, not collectively] in his time [‘his {particular} time’]—FOR YOU and FOR ME and for ALL BELIEVERS IN ALL GENERATIONS UNTIL JESUS COMES TO US ALL, COLLECTIVELY, AS THE MANIFEST SONS OF GOD]."

Long before Jesus can have a COMPANY of manifest SONS and DAUGHTERS of God, there has to be individual begettals by the Holy Spirit of God in chosen individuals in every generation leading up to the coming of the Lord at the end of this age.

"For the mystery [secret, hidden truth] of iniquity [lawlessness] does already work [‘is inwardly working’ The Emphasized New Testament: A New Translation (J. B. Rotherham)]: only he who now lets will let [‘only he who restrains will do so’], until he be taken out of the way.

And then shall that Wicked [Lawless One] be revealed IN [IN YOU] and TO YOU, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit [breath] of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming;

Even him [not original], whose coming [the man of sin called son of perdition IN YOU] is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders" (II Thes. 2:1-9).


LET ME KNOW

Are you beginning to SEE IT? Is God giving you understanding? Do you see the grand and marvelous wisdom of it all? Drop me an email—let me know. I want to know how many out there in computerland are beginning to have ears to hear and eyes to see.

THANK GOD, that I (L. Ray Smith) had fallen away, left my first love, looked back, forsook the Lord, and watched my house upon the sand come crashing down! Only then was I able to stand upon the sand of the sea, and see the beast within, the man of sin, the son of perdition, and Satan the devil who DECEIVED ME!

But NOW, "I am crucified WITH Christ: nevertheless I live: yet not I, but Christ lives IN ME: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith OF the Son of God, who loved ME [and YOU], and gave Himself for ME [and YOU]" (Gal. 2:20).

In conclusion:

"I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard BEHIND me a great voice, as of a trumpet… And I turned to see the voice that spoke with ME. And being TURNED, I saw seven gold candlesticks; [the complete church of God in all generations, with MY sins outlined in each and every one of them] And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and His eyes were as a flame of fire; [PURGING all who look upon Him] And His feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned [refined] in a furnace; and His voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in His right hand seven stars: and out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was as the SUN SHINING IN HIS STRENGTH [no longer a physical body with HOLES in it].

And when I saw Him [in my SPIRIT] I fell at His feet as DEAD. And He laid His right hand upon ME [as He will upon YOU], saying unto ME [and unto YOU],

FEAR NOT" (Rev. 1:10-17).

Truly:  "We have seen the enemy and he is US."

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

skydreamers:

--- Quote ---Sorry Gregor I missed this the first time around, no, those on the Ark were taken (above the earth) those who were left became (returned to) the dust of the earth, the new man (in Christ, Christ within) is taken to a higher realm than the old, carnal, earthly man whose flesh (sinful nature) is consumed by the same Fire that his spirit is purified in.

My point in referencing the rapture was that the two in the field actually represents one person, not as rapture proponants teach.

Peace,

Joe
--- End quote ---

Hi Joe, yes I've been seeing this for some time now.  This thread only confirms further what the Lord has been telling me.

Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luke 17:35

one grinding the other in refinement....

one shall be taken (to receive near, that is, associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation); by analogy to assume an office; figuratively to learn)...

the other left (to send forth,  forsake, lay aside, leave, , omit, put (send) away, remit, suffer, yield up)

depart from me workers of lawlessness (within)

our minds elevated to join in an intimate act to the mind of Christ and the carnal man returns to the dust from which it came

Peace,
Diana

Deborah-Leigh:

Thank you for posting that additional teaching from Ray Joe. It adds emphasis for me that our thoughts are not God's thoughts and our ways are not God's ways. The mind of Christ is Christs and He imparts His Mind to us by His Spirit. Our mind dies daily or finally at the LOF under judgment that purges, purifies,perfects, heals and restors us from vanity, slavery, and corruption of our weak foolish and wicked self deception that is empowered by the illusion of free will.

Joe, I believe that your idea to present thoughts from your notes you made regarding Samuel is wonderful. I have more recently presented in the Forum questions I have had and the membership you and Kat have helped me to grasp a deeper insight and belief through the use of the tools of understanding Gods Word that Ray has taught added with Ray's teachings. The caution and council through knowing that the scriptures are not an interpretation to themselves but are discerned through witness of other scripture that is the Spirit of Christ revelations in Truth and the council of the brethren is I believe is a wise way to tread. We might believe we have nailed a truth, but through discernment of like minded brethren, second witness of the Scriptures and teachings from Ray we may have missed the mark completely or be on the right track. Either way it is profitable to know which way we are heading and thinking by using the eyes and ears of our like minded brothers and sisters.

Being teachable to the witness of the Spirit and  Mind of Christ as presented in the Word of God and Rays teachings and tools given to us by Ray to help us to understand the Word of God,  I believe we have a good team to bring strength in wise council regarding our efforts to comprehend, study and know God.

I believe it to be more mature to assist this direction without distractions of opinions and errors to deception. We have ample teachings and revelations we can all participate as we exercise what we have been called to understand here in BT in order to help one another come to a better aquiantance and knowledge of God.

Peace be to you

Arcturus :)

musicman:
What does this verse actually mean?

Joh 3:30
He must increase, but I must decrease.

The concordant renders it:
He must be growing, yet mine it is to be inferior.

mharrell08:
Great post...I just wanted to "bump" it up to the top so the newer members can see.

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