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gmik:
Thanks Joey.
bobf:
We are to love our enemies and not to return evil for evil under any condition whatsoever and instead to commit ourselves to Him who judges righteously. And I hope that is what I would do.
Even in the case of trying to save a loved one, we have the example of Peter who tried to save Christ and Jesus rebuked Him with "all who take up the sword will die by the sword."
Jwn47:
--- Quote from: bobf ---We are to love our enemies and not to return evil for evil under any condition whatsoever and instead to commit ourselves to Him who judges righteously. And I hope that is what I would do.
Even in the case of trying to save a loved one, we have the example of Peter who tried to save Christ and Jesus rebuked Him with "all who take up the sword will die by the sword."
--- End quote ---
I have two questions. If Jesus's words are spirtual why do we take these words literally? Why did Peter have carry a sword?
John N
Joey Porter:
Actually, the account of Peter has deep spiritual meaning. Of course, the sword is the Word of God. Peter used the sword to harm someone - he used the sword to cut off the ear of his enemy, just like many twist and wrongfully use the very Words of God to "cut off the ears" of those who listen, so that they can't hear the Truth of the gospel. But of course, Jesus healed the man's ear, just as He will someday do for all who have had their "ears to hear" cut off by those who wield the Word of God to harm others and try to control them.
bobf:
--- Quote from: Jwn47 ---
--- Quote from: bobf ---We are to love our enemies and not to return evil for evil under any condition whatsoever and instead to commit ourselves to Him who judges righteously. And I hope that is what I would do.
Even in the case of trying to save a loved one, we have the example of Peter who tried to save Christ and Jesus rebuked Him with "all who take up the sword will die by the sword."
--- End quote ---
I have two questions. If Jesus's words are spirtual why do we take these words literally? Why did Peter have carry a sword?
--- End quote ---
I guess because Peter just tried to literally cut off a man's ear off and Jesus literally told him not too. I can certainly see the possibility of deeper spiritual meaning like Joey gave (above) but I also take Jesus words at face value. Why do we take words like "love your enemies" or "for God so loved the world..." at face value?
EDIT. After contemplating a little more, I don't take those words literally anyway. I take Jesus words to mean that all who return evil for evil will die by the Word of God.
Why would Peter carry a sword? Don't know for sure... utility or self defense.
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