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Joey Porter:
I actually want to follow up on the spiritual meaning in the account of Peter with the sword.
Jesus warned him that those who live by the sword will die by the sword. If we look at this in spiritual terms, it certainly fits right in with the parable of the minas in Luke:
Luke 19
22"His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant!
bobf:
Here something of interest. Don't know what it means but its interesting that the "blessing" Esau receives is that he will "live by the sword."
Genesis 27:38 And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing, my father? bless me, [even] me also, O my father. And Esau lifted up his voice, and wept. 39 And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above; 40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.
In the verses that follow Esau was seeking to kill his brother out of jealousy.
bobf:
Another related passage.
Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
lilitalienboi16:
Guys, think of this.
"An eye for an Eye would make the world blind."
- Ghandi
If we fight EVIL with EVIL, EVIL IS THE WINNER. We must fight EVIL with Good, remember our fight is not with the people of this world but with greater matters.
So in the sence of protecting a loved one, one must have faith in God, because the Lord is in COMPLETE AND TOTAL CONTROLE, He will have His will be, no matter your choice of action, so why not just let it go and trust Him fully?
I also take the example of Peter and Jesus to be a lesson for us all. I know there is Deep spiritual meaning to everything Jesus said, taught, breathed, uttered, showed, exemplified - However i believe that in the Instance of Peter and Jesus there was a LITERAL meaning to what Jesus as well as Spiritual.
Sacrifice your life for another, but do not harm the other person (The enemy) in trying to sacrifice your life for that loved one that is being attacked.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: bobf ---Another related passage.
Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
--- End quote ---
Amen Brother, This is the difference between those who talk the talk, and those who WALK the TALK.
In the end i think if it came down to an issue like this i would most certainly pray for Guidance and right course of Action, and that the Lords will be done, no matter how painfull it might be.
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