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Deborah-Leigh:
In email responses from Ray, the question is answered by Ray pointing out 1 Cor 15:42-54 to bring light as to who will be raised to a spiritual body and who will not.

It was refreshing to see the clarity and simply uncluttered answer given to what can be a most baffling question!

The link is http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6244.0.html

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Chris R:
Hi Deb

 Rev 20:5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection So yes, while there is mention of a first ressurection, a simple deduction would allow us to believe there is a second resurrection.

The only thing that could be misunderstood, is the parable, "one thousand years" All through the scriptures the phrase "The Day Of The Lord" is used, I am not certain if all that happens takes place in a day, or many days, or many years.

The Scriptures point out that there are those resurrected to Glory, and those resurrected to judgment, There is the parable in which the world moans and trevails "anticipating" the manifistation [revealing] of these saints.

Peter described this thousand years, so that we are not "ignorant" of the fact, a Day to the Lord is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like a day.

For me, i agree with Ray, but as to the length of time this all takes place, i havent a clue.

Chris R

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Chris

I too have been pondering the fact that we are still being made into God's image and it is not a done deal yet. So could it follow that the process of resurrection is also in a time frame and process? I think so. Like judgement on the house of God NOW has been going on ever since the death and resurrection of Christ. Does the Day Of The Lord  follow AFTER the judgement on the House of God is complete? I think so.

As for a "second resurrection" this scripture occurs to me where Jesus said I am The Resurrection and the Life There can be no second Jesus or second resurrection. The Resurrection is a Title of Jesus Christ just as God is a title of Christ who is God the Son.

As I am seeing things now, for me, The Day Of The Lord, no matter how long it is, it will have a start and an end. We know that the wrath of God will end and His Judgements in the earth will teach the people righteousness. His Judgements will succeed.

I believe that the Judgment on the House of God NOW  that began over 2000 years ago, is a prelude to that Judgement in the Day Of The Lord. When that Judgement comes to the earth, then it will be fulfilled what Jesus said in  John 5 : 28 ...the time is coming when all those who are in the tombs shall hear His voice 29 and shall come out A)those who have done good, unto the Resurrection of Life B) they that have done evil, unto The Resurrection of damnation.

How long this will take I too do not know. That it will happen, we can know for sure! :)

Also Ray made note of the fact iin his latest conference that

 Rev. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished* is not Scripture and is not in the Scriptures. http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4470.0.html which makes things alot easier to understand! :D
 

Peace to you brother

Arcturus :)

 

Truth101:
Hi all,

This too is an area I've been tryign to sort out. Just a few questions.

Is the day of the lord (1000 years) of judgmment for unbelievers and the kingdom reign one and the same time period?

Does this mean that when the elect are resurrected with spiritual bodies the non elect are also raised with physical bodies at the same time for the same period of a 1000 years?

If so is it in this 1000 years that Christ and His elect reign over the world to bring the world to righteousness through judgment?

If this is all true than this falls in line with the first judgment here and now begginning at the house of God. Then the dead will rise, some to aionios death (judgement) and others to aionios life (reigning with Christ through the kingdom age).

My understanding of the usage of the word "aionios" fits in perfect with this. That is that the word aionios is not merely an age in general but a specific age that always refers to the kingdom.

Any thoughts or comment or corrections?

God bless, Dave

Deborah-Leigh:
As I understand this, when Paul was addressing the Romans he pointed out that there would be a time when the gathering of the Gentiles would be finalized and then those who were hardened and insensitive to the Truth, they would then be saved also.

Does the following Scripture define the division between the Called and the Chosen as in those who are chosen through each generation underjudgment on the House of God NOW, and those who will be purified in the reign of Christ through the LOF on The Day Of The Lord? I believe so.

Romans 11 : 25 Lest you be self-opinionated, I do not want you to miss this hidden truth and mystery, brethren: a hardening has befallen a part of Israel to last until the full number of the in-gathering of the Gentiles has come in. 26. And so all Israel will be saved. As it is written, The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will banish ungodliness from Jacob....31 So they also now are being disobedient, when you are receiving mercy, that they in turn may one day, through the mercy you are enjoying, also receive mercy, that they may share the mercy which has been shown to you - through you as messengers of the Gospel to them.  32 For God has consigned all men to disobedience, only that He may have mercy on them all.

Knowing that  Rev. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished* is not Scripture and is not in the Scriptures, for me adds to the exemplary refutation of the Rapture false teachings that Ray has exposed for us which most thoroughly and completely discredits the Rapture figments of imagination of Babylonian leaders.

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

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